Nissan 370Z Forum  

Stillen SC Build 500 WHP?

Funny cause I was waiting for same also, But what dyno do they use? Dynojet? So my 412 would have been more like 450ish WHP and 330's WTRQ. Also let

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree11Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-15-2012, 02:34 PM   #46 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ANMVQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Framingham MA
Posts: 2,732
Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD
Rep Power: 19
ANMVQ will become famous soon enoughANMVQ will become famous soon enough
Default

Funny cause I was waiting for same also, But what dyno do they use? Dynojet? So my 412 would have been more like 450ish WHP and 330's WTRQ.


Also let say?? 1 psi will get you approx 6.8% extra hp over a naturally aspirated setup (again, theoretical).

330HP VQ ( 6.8 %) is 22.4*9 PSI =201.96 HP over stock- 531HP so 412-430 Dyno depending and some other Var's WHP. So adding 4 PSI( 13 PSI) to my set up should net me 621HP /20% drive loss Should be 497 WHP , (again, theoretical).
__________________
14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

Last edited by ANMVQ; 08-15-2012 at 02:49 PM.
ANMVQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 06:08 PM   #47 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
G37sHKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dubai
Posts: 1,183
Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT
Rep Power: 20
G37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond reputeG37sHKS has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Please do not turn this thread into gtm vs stillen,

GTM and Stillen both have durable kits....
__________________
G37sHKS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 07:52 PM   #48 (permalink)
NOT AN ACTIVE SPONSOR. DO NOT BUY
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CALIFORNIA
Posts: 913
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 17
SAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jezeka777 View Post
i was just counting down the time till some one brought up GTM.. your products are good BUT YOUR STILL NOT CARB APPROVED...Plus I don't have to bribe the nearest auto shop pass inspection... just saying.. thats the only reason i didn't go for GTM...
Quote:
Originally Posted by jezeka777 View Post
SAM if you can sell me a CARB approved kit with those high numbers then you got yourself a deal..
Even if our kit was CARB approved, I still would not be able to offer you what you are looking for. The minute you buy any CARB approved kit and you make any changes to it whatsoever (Custom tune, different pulley, etc.) that approval is void along with the warranty. In order for you to keep the CARB approved status and warranty, you cannot mod the kit. From your previous post in another thread, you are already talking about modding the kit so your point is moot.

I'm not really sure what the regulations are in New York, but if the regulations are like a lot of other states that only check the OBD II or even a sniffer test, then our kit will pass with flying colors. Even in California, they are talking about new regulations that will be testing cars through OBD II only and doing away with the sniffer test altogether.

The bottom line is that you can either buy a kit that makes 500whp out of the box, or buy a different kit that you have to mod further to maybe (and that's a big maybe) make 500whp.

Sam
SAM@GTM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 08:06 PM   #49 (permalink)
NOT AN ACTIVE SPONSOR. DO NOT BUY
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CALIFORNIA
Posts: 913
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 17
SAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ANMVQ View Post
Funny cause I was waiting for same also, But what dyno do they use? Dynojet? So my 412 would have been more like 450ish WHP and 330's WTRQ.


Also let say?? 1 psi will get you approx 6.8% extra hp over a naturally aspirated setup (again, theoretical).

330HP VQ ( 6.8 %) is 22.4*9 PSI =201.96 HP over stock- 531HP so 412-430 Dyno depending and some other Var's WHP. So adding 4 PSI( 13 PSI) to my set up should net me 621HP /20% drive loss Should be 497 WHP , (again, theoretical).
I'm not following your ricer math, but I commend you for trying.

You definitely have an uphill battle, but if you don't try you'll never know and I'll give you credit for that.

My biggest concern will be how will you tune the car properly if you're never able to tell what kind of air intake temperature your engine is ingesting. You would be better off going back to the stock intake manifold and running a blow through MAF setup after an air to air intercooler. That way, you won't max out your MAF's and your ecu will know what the hell is going on. Even when Vortech designed their supercharger kit for the 350Z, they were smart enough back then to do it right and use a blow through MAF setup along with an air to air intercooler.

Sam
SAM@GTM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 11:54 PM   #50 (permalink)
The370Z.com Sponsor
 
Boosted Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 1,629
Drives: Z's
Rep Power: 3382
Boosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond reputeBoosted Performance has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM@GTM View Post
....You would be better off going back to the stock intake manifold and running a blow through MAF setup after an air to air intercooler. That way, you won't max out your MAF's and your ecu will know what the hell is going on. Even when Vortech designed their supercharger kit for the 350Z, they were smart enough back then to do it right and use a blow through MAF setup along with an air to air intercooler.

Sam
I have to agree with this.

It is hard to believe that Stillen didn't really learn much from the horrible F.I kit they have built for the 350z. Using a S/C that a 1.6L honda would run on a 3.5L V6 engine..

When I saw the 370z kit, I thought it was a good supercharger (head unit), but then they went ahead screwed up EVERYTHING else.
__________________
750WHP starting @ $7,500 to the door
FOR DETAILS VISIT: http://www.the370z.com/members/boosted-performance.html
FB: https://www.facebook.com/Boosted-Per...6303179791462/
IG @boostedperformanceyeg
Boosted Performance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 07:23 AM   #51 (permalink)
Base Member
 
jezeka777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: westbury ny
Posts: 118
Drives: 2011 370z sport
Rep Power: 13
jezeka777 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G37sHKS View Post
Please do not turn this thread into gtm vs stillen,

GTM and Stillen both have durable kits....
AGREED!!! Let's chill out and respect the guys build up.
jezeka777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 08:10 AM   #52 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ANMVQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Framingham MA
Posts: 2,732
Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD
Rep Power: 19
ANMVQ will become famous soon enoughANMVQ will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM@GTM View Post
I'm not following your ricer math, but I commend you for trying.

You definitely have an uphill battle, but if you don't try you'll never know and I'll give you credit for that.

My biggest concern will be how will you tune the car properly if you're never able to tell what kind of air intake temperature your engine is ingesting. You would be better off going back to the stock intake manifold and running a blow through MAF setup after an air to air intercooler. That way, you won't max out your MAF's and your ecu will know what the hell is going on. Even when Vortech designed their supercharger kit for the 350Z, they were smart enough back then to do it right and use a blow through MAF setup along with an air to air intercooler.

Sam

No problem Sam, I knew you would get a kick out of that! LOL.

I upgraded the MAF's with the UPREV ones so I'm not worried about maxing them out. Al tho I do kinda agree with the moving the MAF's after, I was tossing this around( having pipes made for the Stillen intake) but decided for now to stay with the Stillen design.

The thing that is really hindering me is there is "NO ONE" around here that could make the pipes- Heck I had to send my intake to FL and S&R for them to trace it.. IF I had a local place that did the custom work , I would drop the car with them for one day or so to make the pipes and move the MAF's. But having to send things out to far away places is not comfortable for me. I have to call and fell like I'm bugging guys when the place is not local for me.
__________________
14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,
ANMVQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 08:18 AM   #53 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ANMVQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Framingham MA
Posts: 2,732
Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD
Rep Power: 19
ANMVQ will become famous soon enoughANMVQ will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM@GTM View Post
Even if our kit was CARB approved, I still would not be able to offer you what you are looking for. The minute you buy any CARB approved kit and you make any changes to it whatsoever (Custom tune, different pulley, etc.) that approval is void along with the warranty. In order for you to keep the CARB approved status and warranty, you cannot mod the kit. From your previous post in another thread, you are already talking about modding the kit so your point is moot.

I'm not really sure what the regulations are in New York, but if the regulations are like a lot of other states that only check the OBD II or even a sniffer test, then our kit will pass with flying colors. Even in California, they are talking about new regulations that will be testing cars through OBD II only and doing away with the sniffer test altogether.

The bottom line is that you can either buy a kit that makes 500whp out of the box, or buy a different kit that you have to mod further to maybe (and that's a big maybe) make 500whp.

Sam

Agreed with Sam on this, Again the GTM kit or Stillen kit should pass the inspecting Sniffer test as long and as long as you have you cats you should be fine( ALL THO there was a goofy thread here that said it you have tune you would FAIL).. GTM's kits are proven OTB to make high 4'-500WHP, An again I almost went this way but the "Dealer offered my Factory warranty stay- if they installed it and I used Stillen's kit- The dealer is a Vendor for them). Yes I have this in Writing- But to stay on topic, GTM and Sam's kit's are proven 500WHP kits, Mine will be a UM lets see. But this something I did to be differnt and really wanted the Factory warranty,- Especially casue I have a 2011 and when this started it was under 9k miles.

But if I had the choice , I proably would have went GTM- But the had no X kit whem I went FI also..
__________________
14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,
ANMVQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 08:42 AM   #54 (permalink)
Ronin Samurai - Assassin
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 68
Posts: 34,812
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684436
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by ANMVQ View Post
Agreed with Sam on this, Again the GTM kit or Stillen kit should pass the inspecting Sniffer test as long and as long as you have you cats you should be fine( ALL THO there was a goofy thread here that said it you have tune you would FAIL).. GTM's kits are proven OTB to make high 4'-500WHP, An again I almost went this way but the "Dealer offered my Factory warranty stay- if they installed it and I used Stillen's kit- The dealer is a Vendor for them). Yes I have this in Writing- But to stay on topic, GTM and Sam's kit's are proven 500WHP kits, Mine will be a UM lets see. But this something I did to be differnt and really wanted the Factory warranty,- Especially casue I have a 2011 and when this started it was under 9k miles.

But if I had the choice , I proably would have went GTM- But the had no X kit whem I went FI also..
You did what you wanted and needed to do. You had your reasons. Nobody can fault you for that. Enough said. I'm waiting to see how this turns out. Because I may follow the same route, or wait for the twin SC's from GTM.
__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 08:48 AM   #55 (permalink)
Track Member
 
weiboy718's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 923
Drives: Infiniti G37
Rep Power: 15
weiboy718 will become famous soon enoughweiboy718 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to weiboy718
Default

ANMVQ. You can always buy a spare intake pipe from STILLEN and send off your old one. No down time there for sure.
weiboy718 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 09:06 AM   #56 (permalink)
Base Member
 
jezeka777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: westbury ny
Posts: 118
Drives: 2011 370z sport
Rep Power: 13
jezeka777 is on a distinguished road
Default

ANMVQ I also am going along with this kit because my Nissan dealer told me that they would still grand warranty to my 2011 12,000 miles on my Z. So I guess it's still a win win.
jezeka777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 09:09 AM   #57 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
kellyefields's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lexington Ky #BBN
Age: 47
Posts: 1,149
Drives: Supercharged
Rep Power: 16
kellyefields is a glorious beacon of lightkellyefields is a glorious beacon of lightkellyefields is a glorious beacon of lightkellyefields is a glorious beacon of lightkellyefields is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ANMVQ View Post
The thing that is really hindering me is there is "NO ONE" around here that could make the pipes- Heck I had to send my intake to FL and S&R for them to trace it.. IF I had a local place that did the custom work , I would drop the car with them for one day or so to make the pipes and move the MAF's. But having to send things out to far away places is not comfortable for me. I have to call and fell like I'm bugging guys when the place is not local for me.
I wanted to throw this out there if you need something from S&R I am in tampa and could always drop by for them to take measurements or the such. In fact I am leaving for overseas for a couple of weeks come the first part of Sept so if they needed it for a while they could use mine without downtime to me since I will be gone anyway.
__________________
MY 2009 SC BUILD.
kellyefields is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 10:13 AM   #58 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ANMVQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Framingham MA
Posts: 2,732
Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD
Rep Power: 19
ANMVQ will become famous soon enoughANMVQ will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kellyefields View Post
I wanted to throw this out there if you need something from S&R I am in tampa and could always drop by for them to take measurements or the such. In fact I am leaving for overseas for a couple of weeks come the first part of Sept so if they needed it for a while they could use mine without downtime to me since I will be gone anyway.
Hey Kelly, THANX man really a lot. S&R ( Jose) has my intake now. I sent to them last week. But I may take you up on that, I was still tossing the idea around of moving the MAF's but wont know till after the 25th my retune date. Maybe between now and then if you really have time just swing through and have them measure and look at the the pipe after the SC to the intake I can talk to them over the phone and see if it something they can do for me.. PM me an I toss you my cell #. Thank a lot man!!!!

WEIBOY, Thanx man, the Stillen intake is at S&R now. Car was down for the SC issue , Was talking more going forward, But maybe with Kelly's GREAT offer I may avoid this.
__________________
14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,
ANMVQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 11:44 AM   #59 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ANMVQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Framingham MA
Posts: 2,732
Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD
Rep Power: 19
ANMVQ will become famous soon enoughANMVQ will become famous soon enough
Default

Tuner will be a real time attach on the 25th( Just texted me) So the 27th now..
__________________
14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,
ANMVQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2012, 12:15 PM   #60 (permalink)
Base Member
 
jezeka777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: westbury ny
Posts: 118
Drives: 2011 370z sport
Rep Power: 13
jezeka777 is on a distinguished road
Default

The wait should pay off. Lol
jezeka777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Whitemtl370's Stillen SC Build Thread Whitemtl370 Member's 370Z Gallery 5 05-07-2012 08:59 AM
stillen superchge build results Nissan370 Forced Induction 68 02-13-2012 04:23 PM
[WTB] wtb nismo seats stillen g3 cai stillen headers and stillen exhaust bloodvayne Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 1 12-18-2011 09:25 PM
Datsun Roadster 1600...To build or not to build motoextreme The Lounge (Off Topic) 66 02-13-2010 12:40 AM
The EXPENSIVE 370Z Build - Brembo, HRE, JIC, Stillen vividracing Member's 370Z Gallery 10 06-03-2009 12:37 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2