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Originally Posted by XwChriswX Yes you have a thread showing a dyno and tune. However this is no different from an UpRev tune. You're saying your product is Better than

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Old 04-30-2013, 12:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Yes you have a thread showing a dyno and tune. However this is no different from an UpRev tune. You're saying your product is Better than UpRev... well, how? You say you can do more than what UpRev can do, but where is that documented?

I asked Cody here on the forum about his situation, and he says he's to remain silent about it. Well, if the products released, what is there to be silent about??
Really

There's a recent thread in here of a stock car getting a UpRev Tune.. Only 5WHP gain.

I thought I did a pretty good job explaining why this product is better.

Full Timing Control, Advanced High Speed Datalogging and Nissan Diagnostic Tools.

Combine that with a road map that has a wave a new features well.. there not much more to talk about

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There's a recent thread in here of a stock car getting a UpRev Tune.. Only 5WHP gain.

I thought I did a pretty good job explaining why this product is better.

Full Timing Control, Advanced High Speed Datalogging and Nissan Diagnostic Tools.

Combine that with a road map that has a wave a new features well.. there not much more to talk about

-John
And what about the full bolt on cars that see from 20-30hp increases from the tune??

You've explained there is room for a better product, but there hasn't been Evidence to support.

You say you have all of these new features, but where is the support? 1 Dyno graph showing the same improvements as UpRev really isn't showing that you've done the unthinkable with VVEL. Where is a side by side comparisson of UpRev tune, and your tune on the same car to show how you can gain More than UpRev?
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And what about the full bolt on cars that see from 20-30hp increases from the tune??

You've explained there is room for a better product, but there hasn't been Evidence to support.

You say you have all of these new features, but where is the support? 1 Dyno graph showing the same improvements as UpRev really isn't showing that you've done the unthinkable with VVEL. Where is a side by side comparisson of UpRev tune, and your tune on the same car to show how you can gain More than UpRev?
My posts have been clear and to the point.

I'm not making anyone switch to EcuTek just clearing stating it's here and has more capability.

I'm sure some of the people that are in the middle of switching over right now will post they're feelings about it sooner rather then later.

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My posts have been clear and to the point.

I'm not making anyone switch to EcuTek just clearing stating it's here and has more capability.

I'm sure some of the people that are in the middle of switching over right now will post they're feelings about it sooner rather then later.

-John
Translation: I have nothing to say but marketing talking points and will not post any actual data to support those talking points.

Fair enough, no one is forced to post anything on this forum. Still makes me sad.
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Translation: I have nothing to say but marketing talking points and will not post any actual data to support those talking points.
I would be inclined to agree with this 100%. If there's something better than Uprev out there EVERYONE on here would be interested in it... but you need some proof that it really exists and showcases the claimed features... Every post about it so far has been nothing but hype with very condescending/ derogeratory replies to anyone that doubted it or asked for proof... Not the way to win business IMO.

Especially when you're asking people to spend potentially $1000+ on an entirely untested and unproven product with nothing but your own word to back it up
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i would be inclined to agree with this 100%. If there's something better than uprev out there everyone on here would be interested in it... But you need some proof that it really exists and showcases the claimed features... every post about it so far has been nothing but hype with very condescending/ derogeratory replies to anyone that doubted it or asked for proof... Not the way to win business imo.

Especially when you're asking people to spend potentially $1000+ on an entirely untested and unproven product with nothing but your own word to back it up
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... very condescending/ derogeratory replies to anyone that doubted it or asked for proof... Not the way to win business IMO.

Especially when you're asking people to spend potentially $1000+ on an entirely untested and unproven product with nothing but your own word to back it up
I'm probably a year away from buying tuning software so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. I have no idea how good or how bad the EcuTek stuff is but if visconti is any indication of the support I would get I'm scratching it off the list of candidates.

visconti: It's probably unintentional but you come across as a real jackass sometimes (I do too, but I'm not selling anything). Hire somebody else to handle your PR. It sounds like you have a good product but a salesman you ain't.
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I'm probably a year away from buying tuning software so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. I have no idea how good or how bad the EcuTek stuff is but if visconti is any indication of the support I would get I'm scratching it off the list of candidates.

visconti: It's probably unintentional but you come across as a real jackass sometimes (I do too, but I'm not selling anything). Hire somebody else to handle your PR. It sounds like you have a good product but a salesman you ain't.
Sometimes JV comes off as a bit harsh, but don't let that put you off his work, or by extension, EcuTek. John is one of the better tuners in the business, and makes up for his lack of people skills where it counts.

For those of you down here in the south, that want proof the Ecutek SW is the way to go, let me know, and I'll arrange a freebie for someone here at our shop. We have used the up rev suite, and have now added the 370 to our EcuTek arsenal, and from a calibrations standpoint, there is no comparison. And I think you will agree when you drive the cars, back to back.
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