EcuTek is proud to announce the release of ProECU Tuning Tools for the Nissan 370Z

visconti · 04-30-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

And what about the full bolt on cars that see from 20-30hp increases from the tune??

You've explained there is room for a better product, but there hasn't been Evidence to support.

You say you have all of these new features, but where is the support? 1 Dyno graph showing the same improvements as UpRev really isn't showing that you've done the unthinkable with VVEL. Where is a side by side comparisson of UpRev tune, and your tune on the same car to show how you can gain More than UpRev?

My posts have been clear and to the point.

I'm not making anyone switch to EcuTek just clearing stating it's here and has more capability.

I'm sure some of the people that are in the middle of switching over right now will post they're feelings about it sooner rather then later.

-John

Sh0velMan · 04-30-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by visconti

My posts have been clear and to the point.

I'm not making anyone switch to EcuTek just clearing stating it's here and has more capability.

I'm sure some of the people that are in the middle of switching over right now will post they're feelings about it sooner rather then later.

-John

Translation: I have nothing to say but marketing talking points and will not post any actual data to support those talking points.

Fair enough, no one is forced to post anything on this forum. Still makes me sad.

seymore4 · 04-30-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Translation: I have nothing to say but marketing talking points and will not post any actual data to support those talking points.

I would be inclined to agree with this 100%. If there's something better than Uprev out there EVERYONE on here would be interested in it... but you need some proof that it really exists and showcases the claimed features... Every post about it so far has been nothing but hype with very condescending/ derogeratory replies to anyone that doubted it or asked for proof... Not the way to win business IMO.

Especially when you're asking people to spend potentially $1000+ on an entirely untested and unproven product with nothing but your own word to back it up

Sh0velMan · 04-30-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by seymore4

i would be inclined to agree with this 100%. If there's something better than uprev out there everyone on here would be interested in it... But you need some proof that it really exists and showcases the claimed features... every post about it so far has been nothing but hype with very condescending/ derogeratory replies to anyone that doubted it or asked for proof... Not the way to win business imo.

Especially when you're asking people to spend potentially $1000+ on an entirely untested and unproven product with nothing but your own word to back it up

qfe.

SouthArk370Z · 05-01-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by seymore4

... very condescending/ derogeratory replies to anyone that doubted it or asked for proof... Not the way to win business IMO.

Especially when you're asking people to spend potentially $1000+ on an entirely untested and unproven product with nothing but your own word to back it up

I'm probably a year away from buying tuning software so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. I have no idea how good or how bad the EcuTek stuff is but if visconti is any indication of the support I would get I'm scratching it off the list of candidates.

visconti: It's probably unintentional but you come across as a real jackass sometimes (I do too, but I'm not selling anything). Hire somebody else to handle your PR. It sounds like you have a good product but a salesman you ain't.

Dynotronics1 · 05-01-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

I'm probably a year away from buying tuning software so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. I have no idea how good or how bad the EcuTek stuff is but if visconti is any indication of the support I would get I'm scratching it off the list of candidates.

visconti: It's probably unintentional but you come across as a real jackass sometimes (I do too, but I'm not selling anything). Hire somebody else to handle your PR. It sounds like you have a good product but a salesman you ain't.

Sometimes JV comes off as a bit harsh, but don't let that put you off his work, or by extension, EcuTek. John is one of the better tuners in the business, and makes up for his lack of people skills where it counts.

For those of you down here in the south, that want proof the Ecutek SW is the way to go, let me know, and I'll arrange a freebie for someone here at our shop. We have used the up rev suite, and have now added the 370 to our EcuTek arsenal, and from a calibrations standpoint, there is no comparison. And I think you will agree when you drive the cars, back to back.

Sh0velMan · 05-01-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1

Sometimes JV comes off as a bit harsh, but don't let that put you off his work, or by extension, EcuTek. John is one of the better tuners in the business, and makes up for his lack of people skills where it counts.

For those of you down here in the south, that want proof the Ecutek SW is the way to go, let me know, and I'll arrange a freebie for someone here at our shop. We have used the up rev suite, and have now added the 370 to our EcuTek arsenal, and from a calibrations standpoint, there is no comparison. And I think you will agree when you drive the cars, back to back.

Where in TX are you?

JARblue · 05-01-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Where in TX are you?

New Braunfels

MyKindaGuise · 05-01-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1

Sometimes JV comes off as a bit harsh, but don't let that put you off his work, or by extension, EcuTek. John is one of the better tuners in the business, and makes up for his lack of people skills where it counts.

For those of you down here in the south, that want proof the Ecutek SW is the way to go, let me know, and I'll arrange a freebie for someone here at our shop. We have used the up rev suite, and have now added the 370 to our EcuTek arsenal, and from a calibrations standpoint, there is no comparison. And I think you will agree when you drive the cars, back to back.

Sadly more people care about having their *** kissed nowadays rather than having someone skilled do what they do. It's ridiculous how butt hurt some of the forum members get.

SouthArk370Z · 05-01-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1

Sometimes JV comes off as a bit harsh, but don't let that put you off his work, or by extension, EcuTek. John is one of the better tuners in the business, and makes up for his lack of people skills where it counts. ...

Perhaps "jackass" was not the best word to use (although, according to you and some other posts in this thread, it's probably accurate

). "Scammer" would probably have been a better word. The way he dodges the questions and dismisses requests for evidence reminds me a lot of HHO proponents and other scammers.

Apparently he is not a scammer (EcuTek gets plenty of good reviews for their other tuning product and I'll take your word for it that he knows what he's doing) but he sure sounds like one to me. I stand by my recommendation to find someone else to handle PR.

visconti · 05-01-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Perhaps "jackass" was not the best word to use (although, according to you and some other posts in this thread, it's probably accurate

). "Scammer" would probably have been a better word. The way he dodges the questions and dismisses requests for evidence reminds me a lot of HHO proponents and other scammers.

Apparently he is not a scammer (EcuTek gets plenty of good reviews for their other tuning product and I'll take your word for it that he knows what he's doing) but he sure sounds like one to me. I stand by my recommendation to find someone else to handle PR.

I'm not going to kiss *** or post datalogs of my work.

If anyone wants to see datalogs, they can purchase the tune and have a look for themselves.

Again, if what I've posted isn't enough.. don't buy it.. But there's plenty of people already lined up to get tunes so you can wait to see the results from them.

-John

-John

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