VVEL control unlocked

sixpax · 12-27-2012, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Was referring to revving, they sounded remarkably familiar. My idle was pulsing, but rythmic and more worble.

my wife used to say that about me ... about 20 years ago.

ColdFire · 12-30-2012, 09:59 AM

Sounded awful. it just sound wrong guys, was considering Up Rev but might go on the other direction if such tuning is Okay. In my region we have authorized dealers or tuner shall i say. but I don't trust them with my car, can Up Rev do a custom tune by shipping them my ECU? If so who is the best tuner out there?!

Hotrodz · 12-30-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdFire

Sounded awful. it just sound wrong guys, was considering Up Rev but might go on the other direction if such tuning is Okay. In my region we have authorized dealers or tuner shall i say. but I don't trust them with my car, can Up Rev do a custom tune by shipping them my ECU? If so who is the best tuner out there?!

I am by no means an expert on tuning but it can be done remotely. Khoi Ha, Sales and Marketing, AAM Competition provided me with the following information; " As far as tuning goes, most places will charge about 600-700 for a dyno tuning session with the Uprev flash license, right now we are charging 599 for this service.

The difference between dyno tune and e-tuning (or remote tuning) Dyno tuning takes at most a few hours, you have the convenience of doing all of your pulls on the dyno and can adjust your maps at the tip of your fingers. It's convenient, quick, and effective. However not everyone has access to a reputable tuner, or a tuner at all within reasonable distance so they Uprev offers the standard cable, which you can buy to hook up your laptop to your car yourself.

Remote tuning is simple, can be just as effective as a dyno tune, but requires you to do your end of the work too. Instead of doing pulls on the dyno and adjusting the map in real time, now we (the tuner) send you a map, you load it to your car. After the map is loaded, you hop onto the highway and log certain/specific data points, via the cable and your own laptop (and the software), these data points get saved and sent to us, we analyze the logs and adjust your map accordingly, and send you an updated map. You go back and forth a few times until your map is perfect. A bit more complicated but by no means is this method inferior to a dyno tune.

If you do get a dyno tune, I highly recommend you ask them to take it on the street and fine tune/street tune it as well. Although dyno tune can be very accurate, depending on the dyno, it doesn't apply real world load. Some tuners will argue that street tuning a street car is the way to go, and dyno tunes are for those just looking to make crazy numbers, haha I say the best of both worlds is dyno tune, then fine tune things on the street!"

You should PM Khoi, he is very knowledgeable and provides outstanding customer service. I hope this helps.

ColdFire · 01-01-2013, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I am by no means an expert on tuning but it can be done remotely. Khoi Ha, Sales and Marketing, AAM Competition provided me with the following information; " As far as tuning goes, most places will charge about 600-700 for a dyno tuning session with the Uprev flash license, right now we are charging 599 for this service.

The difference between dyno tune and e-tuning (or remote tuning) Dyno tuning takes at most a few hours, you have the convenience of doing all of your pulls on the dyno and can adjust your maps at the tip of your fingers. It's convenient, quick, and effective. However not everyone has access to a reputable tuner, or a tuner at all within reasonable distance so they Uprev offers the standard cable, which you can buy to hook up your laptop to your car yourself.

Remote tuning is simple, can be just as effective as a dyno tune, but requires you to do your end of the work too. Instead of doing pulls on the dyno and adjusting the map in real time, now we (the tuner) send you a map, you load it to your car. After the map is loaded, you hop onto the highway and log certain/specific data points, via the cable and your own laptop (and the software), these data points get saved and sent to us, we analyze the logs and adjust your map accordingly, and send you an updated map. You go back and forth a few times until your map is perfect. A bit more complicated but by no means is this method inferior to a dyno tune.

If you do get a dyno tune, I highly recommend you ask them to take it on the street and fine tune/street tune it as well. Although dyno tune can be very accurate, depending on the dyno, it doesn't apply real world load. Some tuners will argue that street tuning a street car is the way to go, and dyno tunes are for those just looking to make crazy numbers, haha I say the best of both worlds is dyno tune, then fine tune things on the street!"

You should PM Khoi, he is very knowledgeable and provides outstanding customer service. I hope this helps.

It did help a lot!. E-tunning seems to complicated to be honest however, it would be the only alternative in my case. I'll try to hook my self up with our drag racing team in Qatar "Al-Anabi". Hopefully they can do UpRev tuning at there convenient.

Thanks for the tip

Anyone knows what is the difference between locked and unlocked UpRev tune?. Obviously one is adjustable and the other one is fixed but which one would you go if you want a Full bolt on setup. does it worth it to have the car tune after full bolt on mods? is it a must to save my engine from quick failure

Sh0velMan · 01-02-2013, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdFire

It did help a lot!. E-tunning seems to complicated to be honest however, it would be the only alternative in my case. I'll try to hook my self up with our drag racing team in Qatar "Al-Anabi". Hopefully they can do UpRev tuning at there convenient.

Thanks for the tip

Anyone knows what is the difference between locked and unlocked UpRev tune?. Obviously one is adjustable and the other one is fixed but which one would you go if you want a Full bolt on setup. does it worth it to have the car tune after full bolt on mods? is it a must to save my engine from quick failure

A locked tune just means the rom can't be edited by anyone but the person who locked it. It's a way for a tuner to be sure his work isn't used by another tuner without their permission. I kind of hate it, but it makes sense from the business standpoint.

I personally would never load a locked tune unless the tuning was being done for free by someone local who doesn't mind being bugged for tweaks.

Remote tuning is based upon the tuner's experience with tuning that particular car or, more specifically, engine and "what makes power".

Data logs can't log power output. Most e-tuning is just to keep AFR in the range that's wanted as well as any other indicators the tuner knows to look for based upon past experiences with that engine.

The only way to effectively tune specifically for power is to do it on a dyno, in real time, so that the tuner can see what does and doesn't work with a particular setup with a particular set of environmental parameters.

I've started arguments on this forum with statements like that, but it's true. You can't do science without proper data and you can't get the relevant data needed to be 100% accurate without collecting that data yourself with proper instrumentation. Everything else is best effort with known parameters.

(Which to be honest, is more than enough for most of us haha)

ColdFire · 01-09-2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

A locked tune just means the rom can't be edited by anyone but the person who locked it. It's a way for a tuner to be sure his work isn't used by another tuner without their permission. I kind of hate it, but it makes sense from the business standpoint.

I personally would never load a locked tune unless the tuning was being done for free by someone local who doesn't mind being bugged for tweaks.

Remote tuning is based upon the tuner's experience with tuning that particular car or, more specifically, engine and "what makes power".

Data logs can't log power output. Most e-tuning is just to keep AFR in the range that's wanted as well as any other indicators the tuner knows to look for based upon past experiences with that engine.

The only way to effectively tune specifically for power is to do it on a dyno, in real time, so that the tuner can see what does and doesn't work with a particular setup with a particular set of environmental parameters.

I've started arguments on this forum with statements like that, but it's true. You can't do science without proper data and you can't get the relevant data needed to be 100% accurate without collecting that data yourself with proper instrumentation. Everything else is best effort with known parameters.

(Which to be honest, is more than enough for most of us haha)

Well-explained sadly the 370Z is rare so yea... wish me good luck with finding a local tuner to dyno tune the hell out of the Z!. Heard few people talking about detonation if the car have for instance (Full bolt on) w/o tune.. Any opinion on that? Thanks

G37Sam · 01-09-2013, 01:31 PM

Coldfire you should come down to Abu Dhabi for a day and get her tuned here

Sh0velMan · 01-09-2013, 02:00 PM

See there, you got yourself a regular community going on 'round there!

ColdFire · 01-10-2013, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

Coldfire you should come down to Abu Dhabi for a day and get her tuned here

I've been to GTZ forum.. Extreme Performance in Dubai "Khalid" seems to be the hottest demanded tuner in UAE. I will be in touch Sam my FI full bolt on setup will be here in Qatar around April.. I need your advice will PM you for sure

Cheers

G37Sam · 01-10-2013, 06:26 AM

You're spot on man!

Cheers,

Joepro · 01-17-2013, 09:04 AM

Forgive me for not reading through all 21 pages, are there NA gains and are tuners using this at all? Planning on getting mine tuned in a few months after winter brakes(brakes ahaha, wow, I just did that), or maybe I should wait if this is still in development/worth it for NA.

thanks guys!

DIGItonium · 01-17-2013, 01:06 PM

Search results:
Z1 Motorsports: 326rwhp with Stock exhaust
NA: 342/275. Anyone higher?

AlexRaymond19 · 02-11-2013, 05:41 AM

Any update on VVEL tuning?

johncy2000 · 03-28-2013, 10:59 PM

Any update on VVEL tuning?

NitrousZ34 · 04-05-2013, 04:41 AM

Any update on VVEL tuning?

12-30-2012, 09:59 AM	#302 (permalink)
ColdFire Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Qatar Age: 34 Posts: 106 Drives: 13 370Z 6MT, 15 GT-R Rep Power: 368	Sounded awful. it just sound wrong guys, was considering Up Rev but might go on the other direction if such tuning is Okay. In my region we have authorized dealers or tuner shall i say. but I don't trust them with my car, can Up Rev do a custom tune by shipping them my ECU? If so who is the best tuner out there?! blueranger likes this.

01-09-2013, 01:31 PM	#307 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	Coldfire you should come down to Abu Dhabi for a day and get her tuned here __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

01-09-2013, 02:00 PM	#308 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	See there, you got yourself a regular community going on 'round there! __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

01-10-2013, 06:26 AM	#310 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	You're spot on man! Cheers, __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

01-17-2013, 09:04 AM	#311 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	Forgive me for not reading through all 21 pages, are there NA gains and are tuners using this at all? Planning on getting mine tuned in a few months after winter brakes(brakes ahaha, wow, I just did that), or maybe I should wait if this is still in development/worth it for NA. thanks guys! __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

01-17-2013, 01:06 PM	#312 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Search results: Z1 Motorsports: 326rwhp with Stock exhaust NA: 342/275. Anyone higher? __________________

02-11-2013, 05:41 AM	#313 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	Any update on VVEL tuning? __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

03-28-2013, 10:59 PM	#314 (permalink)
johncy2000 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Redwood City SVBAZ, CA Posts: 461 Drives: Autohaus Progressive Rep Power: 12	Any update on VVEL tuning? __________________ 2011 Gun Metallic Nismo 370Z 6MT #435 Autohaus Progressive @johanncarlow autohausp@icloud.com

04-05-2013, 04:41 AM	#315 (permalink)
NitrousZ34 Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canoga Posts: 505 Drives: Myself crazy Rep Power: 0	Any update on VVEL tuning?

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