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Old 03-19-2019, 05:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would go with the Boundry Engineering gears and call it good if at all for now. Remember the engine may need to be pulled to do the oil gears so that time and labor will be about $1800. Also add to the list ATI super damper. If you want a bit more power get Z1 400 hp kit. It seems to be worth the money without going stupid.
almost forgot about the ATI Super Damper...

No Z1 kit. The value just isn't there and I'm not shooting for numbers. Probably won't even dyno unless a random opportunity arises.

How much more labor is it for the oil pump replacement if I'm doing engine mounts and oil galley gasket work? I don't want to go crazy, but I'm not interested in doubling up on labor down the road just because I didn't want to spend a few extra pesos now. The Boundary Engineering gears are $600 with new OEM pump housing plus rebuild cost. I like the Sucker Punch option because of the upgraded housing.
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah ... the clutch and maintenance items are at least $4000 in parts and labor

Galley gasket should be done though, right? I mean 100K miles. If it fails on the track, the motor probably gets toasted.
It is a toss up in my opinion. If you haven't had any oil related issues with the motor you will probably be okay and if it goes boom then a good used motor is about $1500 to $1800. So maybe pick up a second motor and store it until that unfortunate day comes around or you get that big pay day and you want to add boost. That way you can keep running while your motor is being built. Keep it simple stupid if you're gonna stay NA. I would ask Eagle if he did oil pump gears. He beats the hell out his car on the track and also drives it on the street.

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If the motor goes boom, I feel like boost will come into play at that time. Truthfully, I'm just trying to avoid that rabbit hole

At least until the disposable income is burning a hole in my pocket...

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No Z1 kit. The value just isn't there and I'm not shooting for numbers. Probably won't even dyno unless a random opportunity arises.



How much more labor is it for the oil pump replacement if I'm doing engine mounts and oil galley gasket work? I don't want to go crazy, but I'm not interested in doubling up on labor down the road just because I didn't want to spend a few extra pesos now. The Boundary Engineering gears are $600 with new OEM pump housing plus rebuild cost. I like the Sucker Punch option because of the upgraded housing.
Haha, who said anything about numbers in that way. The power band with their kit pretty good for the track. You asked for suggestions so I put it out there.

As far as the oil pump gears go I am just giving you the same information I got from Seb. I ran the CJ Motorsports oil pump gears and my OEM oil pump for two years and never had an issue until my rods fatigued. You got choices and nothing is a guaranty! You got to pay to play with a track toy.

Oh, and you will need to add tires to the list as well. You will need set aside a tire fund as they are your number one most costly consumable.

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If the motor goes boom, I feel like boost will come into play at that time. Truthfully, I'm just trying to avoid that rabbit hole

At least until the disposable income is burning a hole in my pocket...

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Racecar=rabbit hole!

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Yes. I am trying to avoid the boosted racecar rabbit hole. It's much deeper in terms of both money and time

Thinking if I pass on the oil stuff, an oil pressure gauge in cabin might be a worthwhile investment. Maybe move that up to a 1?
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Yes. I am trying to avoid the boosted racecar rabbit hole. It's much deeper

Thinking if I pass on the oil stuff, an oil pressure gauge in cabin might be a worthwhile investment. Maybe move that up to a 1?
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Yes. I am trying to avoid the boosted racecar rabbit hole. It's much deeper in terms of both money and time

Thinking if I pass on the oil stuff, an oil pressure gauge in cabin might be a worthwhile investment. Maybe move that up to a 1?
Maybe hit up oldfart. I think he became a dealer for Speedhut gauges, a chance you might get a deal.
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Haha, who said anything about numbers in that way. The power band with their kit pretty good for the track. You asked for suggestions so I put it out there.
Didn't mean to assume... It just seems like a lot of people that go for the kit are only looking for good NA numbers. And for the limited power increase, I'd prefer to spend that money on seat time at the track. I'm just trying to build the car up so it will last for a few years while I get ready for the big leagues lol

But that's the kind of useful information I like
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As far as the oil pump gears go I am just giving you the same information I got from Seb. I ran the CJ Motorsports oil pump gears and my OEM oil pump for two years and never had an issue until my rods fatigued. You got choices and nothing is a guaranty! You got to pay to play with a track toy.
Sounds good to me. I didn't realize CJM made gears - I don't see them on the website. I'm pretty much ready to play. My goal is to build up the car and replace parts that are likely to break at all once before instead of in phases as stuff breaks.


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Oh, and you will need to add tires to the list as well. You will need set aside a tire fund as they are your number one most costly consumable.
Don't remind me. I opened a separate savings account just for tires. Been feeding into it for several months now. I think I'll probably roll on your Nismo wheels to start, but definitely keeping an eye out for deals on some square 18s with proper offsets.
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I thought Phunks gears were a one time group buy. Went on about the same time he did the baffled oil pan.

I never saw he started producing them outside the group buy and actually never saw that group buy went ahead either.
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Yes. I am trying to avoid the boosted racecar rabbit hole. It's much deeper in terms of both money and time

Thinking if I pass on the oil stuff, an oil pressure gauge in cabin might be a worthwhile investment. Maybe move that up to a 1?
Oil pressure gauge is #1.
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Do you want to compete with the car at some point? Might be worth reading the rules and building within that.
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As to the oil galley gaskets and related whatnot, took me ab 16 man-hours to do the gaskets, Defi oil pressure gauge, and a bunch of other ish... and I'd never taken off more than the bumper before that.

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Do you want to compete with the car at some point? Might be worth reading the rules and building within that.
I've made the decision that the Z is the wrong platform for autoXing competitively. For me, at least. Unless I want to basically keep it stock, I don't feel it's worth modifying much for autoX.

I want to redline 5th gear. I want to threshold brake from 150+ mph. I want to throw my Z around corners on the absolute edge of traction at 80+ mph ... ... safely ... eventually. Can't do that on the street or autoX.
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