Topgunz - air to air upgrade

TopgunZ · 06-17-2017, 08:50 AM

By replacing the sc pulley you:
A. Can get the pulley for half the cost of stillen 9psi.
B. Can keep better belt grip on the 8psi pulley
C. Can spin the sc even faster than with the 9psi. Depending on size or a combo of 9psi and sc pulley.

ChaseZ · 06-17-2017, 11:29 PM

That's a good price for high traction pulleys. Usually the coating alone basically doubles the price.

mikey1600 · 06-18-2017, 01:06 AM

Cheers guys, was thinking the stage 3 daily as well but wasn't sure, after reading your comments it seems it will be sufficient, going to ask Zspeed about the Stage 3 daily, there's also a Stage 4 daily there as well but no in kit format, will ask the differences if not much difference will take the Stage 4 to be safe for future.

ChaseZ · 06-18-2017, 12:45 PM

I know 928 you can choose between clear aluminum or black. It haven't seen a srillen one that is anything other than black. JB pulleys are right from Vortech I believe and not coloured either. Not that it makes much difference at the end of the day. I'm just glad my bright green belt has turned mostly black now lol

TBatt · 06-19-2017, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ

I know 928 you can choose between clear aluminum or black. It haven't seen a srillen one that is anything other than black. JB pulleys are right from Vortech I believe and not coloured either. Not that it makes much difference at the end of the day. I'm just glad my bright green belt has turned mostly black now lol

Me too!

Too bad that Gates doesn't make that length belt in their racing blue color. But then again it would just turn black.......

I'm a John Deere fan so the green makes me think of their slogan, "Nothing Runs Like A Deere". Yeah, nothing runs like a boosted Z either! Dang, my car is FUN!

Peshinho · 06-18-2017, 09:22 PM

I need one kit. Can you send me ok with payment info and delivery date

Thanks

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

As many of you know, there is demand for a good solution to the water to air design of the Stillen kit. I have made my own and it is working perfect and has put down 527whp on 12psi with E85.

I do not think I need to go into the benefits of going Air to Air since anyone reading this will know just how terrible the water system works. Anything over 9psi is playing with fire. The Air to Air is coming in just above ambient on my setup and I will be utilizing an even bigger intercooler on the presented kit.

I am working on making this kit available for purchase. I am going to send all files to a very reputable party to have them build the components. I am going to test fit the first kit on my car then have it dyno tested. I will post results as soon as possible.

Kit will include:
-New Air filter - Eliminating stillen Y intake and small dual filter design
-Piping from Supercharger to intercooler
-Bypass Valve Mount adapter
-Treadstone Intercooler rated for 720HP
-Intercooler mounting brackets
-All cold side piping and intakes - 2.75" Custom Y pipe with MAF housings - Blow through design will allow computer to see temps unlike current design
-Manifold Block off plate (with gasket maker)
-All silicone couplers and T-bolts
-Vacuum hose
-Installation instructions

Possible Stage 2 kit:
Upgrade to V1 or V2 Ti/Si head unit - Capable of more power than the V3. Will come with all necessary parts to upgrade to this unit.

This kits cost is $1475 shipped. FREE SHIPPING AND ZERO PAYPAL FEES

The hardest part about installing this kit will be taking the aftercooler out of the manifold as this requires the removal and re-installation of the manifold. Other than that it is about as difficult as installing a Stillen Gen3 cold air intake.

EDIT - Can pull out aftercooler and hacksaw it off if you would prefer. No need to take manifold off and put back on.

Here are some pics of the kit installed on both a G and a Z. You can see there are different BPV options as well with this kit. I will help you with what you need.

TopgunZ · 06-19-2017, 10:31 AM

Thats really, really odd. I would put a caliper on them for sure.

brucelidat · 06-19-2017, 05:48 PM

Topgunz, any update on how your SC kit is going?

TopgunZ · 06-20-2017, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

Topgunz, any update on how your SC kit is going?

Slower than I wanted (story of our lives). My summer has been crazy!

TBatt · 06-20-2017, 08:31 AM

My 8psi pulley is silver and most that I have seen on the forum are silver (bare aluminum). The color is just a coating (anodizing) and should not effect performance. The "high traction" pulleys are often bead blasted for a more aggressive "bite" of the belt surface. I'm not sure how effective this treatment is over time.

One thing that I have noticed on the micro-v belts is that the ribs are fairly wide compared to the pulley groove. As the belt is put under tension the ribs are pulled into the grooves (standard V belt workings) and increase the surface area/traction. They do reach a limit when the force is greater than the traction. You gotta remember that a SC is drawing somewhere between 50 and 70 hp to create the boost we so love.

ChaseZ · 06-20-2017, 09:25 AM

I didn't realize the 'high traction' pulleys were just bead blasted. Thought it was a coating for some reason. Heck I've got a bead blasting cabinet in the garage so can make all the high traction I want lol

Optimiser · 06-21-2017, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaseZ

I didn't realize the 'high traction' pulleys were just bead blasted. Thought it was a coating for some reason. Heck I've got a bead blasting cabinet in the garage so can make all the high traction I want lol

I believe they have a coating.

acorona370 · 06-22-2017, 07:50 AM

Hey guys with stillen and conceptZ discontinuing the 9lb pulley. Can someone upload a link where i can purchase one. Dont want to buy the wrong one.

BOLIO 671 · 06-27-2017, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by acorona370

Hey guys with stillen and conceptZ discontinuing the 9lb pulley. Can someone upload a link where i can purchase one. Dont want to buy the wrong one.

Wow....Really??? They're discontinuing?

turtle64b · 07-01-2017, 06:46 AM

^^^What he said.

It's not difficult. you can sand it and get some paint to make it look almost stock. I don't have a picture, but I used Rustoleum Gloss black, I believe, and it looks the same. I also used a Dremmel with the metal cutting wheel. It took 3 wheels to do the job lol.

06-17-2017, 08:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	By replacing the sc pulley you: A. Can get the pulley for half the cost of stillen 9psi. B. Can keep better belt grip on the 8psi pulley C. Can spin the sc even faster than with the 9psi. Depending on size or a combo of 9psi and sc pulley. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

06-19-2017, 10:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	Thats really, really odd. I would put a caliper on them for sure. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

06-19-2017, 05:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	Topgunz, any update on how your SC kit is going? __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

06-20-2017, 08:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
TBatt Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20170	My 8psi pulley is silver and most that I have seen on the forum are silver (bare aluminum). The color is just a coating (anodizing) and should not effect performance. The "high traction" pulleys are often bead blasted for a more aggressive "bite" of the belt surface. I'm not sure how effective this treatment is over time. One thing that I have noticed on the micro-v belts is that the ribs are fairly wide compared to the pulley groove. As the belt is put under tension the ribs are pulled into the grooves (standard V belt workings) and increase the surface area/traction. They do reach a limit when the force is greater than the traction. You gotta remember that a SC is drawing somewhere between 50 and 70 hp to create the boost we so love. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

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06-17-2017, 11:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94685	That's a good price for high traction pulleys. Usually the coating alone basically doubles the price.

06-18-2017, 01:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	Cheers guys, was thinking the stage 3 daily as well but wasn't sure, after reading your comments it seems it will be sufficient, going to ask Zspeed about the Stage 3 daily, there's also a Stage 4 daily there as well but no in kit format, will ask the differences if not much difference will take the Stage 4 to be safe for future.

06-18-2017, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94685	I know 928 you can choose between clear aluminum or black. It haven't seen a srillen one that is anything other than black. JB pulleys are right from Vortech I believe and not coloured either. Not that it makes much difference at the end of the day. I'm just glad my bright green belt has turned mostly black now lol

06-20-2017, 09:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94685	I didn't realize the 'high traction' pulleys were just bead blasted. Thought it was a coating for some reason. Heck I've got a bead blasting cabinet in the garage so can make all the high traction I want lol

06-22-2017, 07:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
acorona370 Base Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Schaumburg Posts: 62 Drives: 370Z Nismo 2014 Rep Power: 10	Hey guys with stillen and conceptZ discontinuing the 9lb pulley. Can someone upload a link where i can purchase one. Dont want to buy the wrong one.

07-01-2017, 06:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
turtle64b Track Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Granbury, TX Posts: 550 Drives: '11 SC Blue 7AT Rep Power: 3367	^^^What he said. It's not difficult. you can sand it and get some paint to make it look almost stock. I don't have a picture, but I used Rustoleum Gloss black, I believe, and it looks the same. I also used a Dremmel with the metal cutting wheel. It took 3 wheels to do the job lol.