Topgunz - air to air upgrade

ChaseZ · 06-15-2017, 02:07 PM

I have a spare pulley from an OEM tensioner I had to replace. It's bigger for sure but without meSuring it may be slightly too big. I've got some playing with things to do later on so will check it out at the same time.

That said, I'm more keen on changing the serpentine side pulley anyhow, provided I can find one that is the normal price. Looks to me like there is still enough room in the OEM tensioner that the belt I got from you with the extra idler should still fit just fine.

MoulaZ · 06-15-2017, 10:34 PM

What's all this talk about various pulley upgrades? I thought you only ever replace the SC Input Pulley and the rest stay as they are...

BOLIO 671 · 06-16-2017, 12:14 AM

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Im running 2

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What brand and where did u order? An6 pic of three Bay of how u set it up?

nic370 · 06-16-2017, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

What brand and where did u order? An6 pic of three Bay of how u set it up?

Sure man
Just running for work I'll pop up pics and info later.

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mikey1600 · 06-16-2017, 03:03 AM

little bit off-topic here but still related to these upgrades,

will be running similar to what topgunz is in regards to engine mods, what clutch is everyone using for around 500-550rwhp? I've been to a couple places here in Aus and they are telling me I need to go a button clutch anything else won't handle it which sounds a bit weird. our 370z's aren't torque monsters, any recommendations?

ChaseZ · 06-16-2017, 03:10 AM

South bend stage 3 daily is a good all arounder. If you are tracking, dragging etc then that's different though. All depends how you use it.

MoulaZ · 06-16-2017, 06:55 AM

I'm running a Southbend Daily Stage 3 as well. It was about 30,000km old too by the time I got the SC on there and it's still holding fine for now.

nic370 · 06-16-2017, 07:09 AM

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Sure man
Just running for work I'll pop up pics and info later.

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http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/82588-v...n#entry1244631

Some info on pcv post #14
I'm running the 2 can method explained here

I'm running 2 mishimoto compact cans in black

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TopgunZ · 06-16-2017, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ

South bend stage 3 daily is a good all arounder. If you are tracking, dragging etc then that's different though. All depends how you use it.

I second this. I ran mine at 530whp and 480wtq for over a year on a single turbo that ramped torque in hard and fast and it never even thought of slipping. Switched to the SC and it seen even less torque so zero chance it will slip. I would push this clutch to over 500wtq all day and the SC's wont get near that level. Plus it had a stock feel to it. Id buy it again in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by MoulaZ

I'm running a Southbend Daily Stage 3 as well. It was about 30,000km old too by the time I got the SC on there and it's still holding fine for now.

Second this too.

TBatt · 06-16-2017, 08:01 AM

My Southbend Stage 3 Daily is arriving TODAY from ZSpeed.

Felors · 06-16-2017, 08:10 AM

ChaseZ, You are correct. The Stillen 9lb pulley replace the silver 8psi pulley (jackshaft) on the serpentine belt side. See attachment.

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I've got the regular 8psi pulley in the front side of the jackshaft as well. It's tight for sure. In fact have to be careful, I got just a little bit of water on the area doing some cleaning the other day and it was enough that it kicked the belt right off.

Was going to grab a 9psi pulley, just to clarify it sounds like the Vortech one goes in the SC backside of the jackshaft where the Stillen one goes on the front. Correct? I hadn't contemplated there would be a difference but stands to reason there is I suppose.

I actually had one before and wasn't going to use it so I sold it. Which of course I now regret.

TBatt · 06-16-2017, 08:11 AM

My search for the larger idler pulley to use on the SC belt when changing the SC pulley to a 9psi setup (2.95 inch) has been very frustrating. I have been using the search tools but keep coming up empty on the part number.

What I did find is the pulley needs to be 76mm in diameter and I think the width is around 32mm. This weekend I will take some measurements of mine and then get the PN from the Gates catalog. Hopefully I can see the PN and remove all doubt.........

As an FYI: the SC belt is a Gates K08022 or Magnuson M-79-08-02-020.

Vortech 2.95 SC pulley is PN 2A038-295
Idler pulley needed is (maybe) Gates 36225. I need to verify this!

ChaseZ · 06-16-2017, 09:20 AM

For reference the pulley off the OEM serp tensioner is 71mm
However it's probably only wide enough for a 7 rib not 8. Ere is a pretty substantial flange around it which could probably be machined off, but for the cost of a pulley likely isn't worth the effort or expense.

ChaseZ · 06-16-2017, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Felors

ChaseZ, You are correct. The Stillen 9lb pulley replace the silver 8psi pulley (jackshaft) on the serpentine belt side. See attachment.

Thanks

Felors · 06-16-2017, 01:29 PM

Does anyone know where you can get a Stillen 9lb pulley?
conceptzperformance.com just ran out.

Stillen 9lb pulley is 2.75" 7 ribs from what i have seen on other forums. Correct me if i am wrong.

So I would need to find a similar pulley. Maybe from Vortech. Let me know if anyone finds one please. I will keep looking.

06-15-2017, 02:07 PM	#1816 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94682	I have a spare pulley from an OEM tensioner I had to replace. It's bigger for sure but without meSuring it may be slightly too big. I've got some playing with things to do later on so will check it out at the same time. That said, I'm more keen on changing the serpentine side pulley anyhow, provided I can find one that is the normal price. Looks to me like there is still enough room in the OEM tensioner that the belt I got from you with the extra idler should still fit just fine. Last edited by ChaseZ; 06-15-2017 at 02:13 PM.

06-16-2017, 03:10 AM	#1821 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94682	South bend stage 3 daily is a good all arounder. If you are tracking, dragging etc then that's different though. All depends how you use it. TBatt likes this.

06-16-2017, 08:01 AM	#1825 (permalink)
TBatt Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20168	My Southbend Stage 3 Daily is arriving TODAY from ZSpeed. 370Zsteve, TopgunZ and ChaseZ like this. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

06-16-2017, 08:11 AM	#1827 (permalink)
TBatt Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20168	My search for the larger idler pulley to use on the SC belt when changing the SC pulley to a 9psi setup (2.95 inch) has been very frustrating. I have been using the search tools but keep coming up empty on the part number. What I did find is the pulley needs to be 76mm in diameter and I think the width is around 32mm. This weekend I will take some measurements of mine and then get the PN from the Gates catalog. Hopefully I can see the PN and remove all doubt......... As an FYI: the SC belt is a Gates K08022 or Magnuson M-79-08-02-020. Vortech 2.95 SC pulley is PN 2A038-295 Idler pulley needed is (maybe) Gates 36225. I need to verify this! ChaseZ likes this. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

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06-15-2017, 10:34 PM	#1817 (permalink)
MoulaZ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 229 Drives: '09 Z34 BP Turbo V2 Rep Power: 24	What's all this talk about various pulley upgrades? I thought you only ever replace the SC Input Pulley and the rest stay as they are...

06-16-2017, 03:03 AM	#1820 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 15	little bit off-topic here but still related to these upgrades, will be running similar to what topgunz is in regards to engine mods, what clutch is everyone using for around 500-550rwhp? I've been to a couple places here in Aus and they are telling me I need to go a button clutch anything else won't handle it which sounds a bit weird. our 370z's aren't torque monsters, any recommendations?

06-16-2017, 06:55 AM	#1822 (permalink)
MoulaZ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 229 Drives: '09 Z34 BP Turbo V2 Rep Power: 24	I'm running a Southbend Daily Stage 3 as well. It was about 30,000km old too by the time I got the SC on there and it's still holding fine for now.

06-16-2017, 09:20 AM	#1828 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94682	For reference the pulley off the OEM serp tensioner is 71mm However it's probably only wide enough for a 7 rib not 8. Ere is a pretty substantial flange around it which could probably be machined off, but for the cost of a pulley likely isn't worth the effort or expense.

06-16-2017, 01:29 PM	#1830 (permalink)
Felors Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Decatur, Tx Posts: 23 Drives: 16 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 8	Does anyone know where you can get a Stillen 9lb pulley? conceptzperformance.com just ran out. Stillen 9lb pulley is 2.75" 7 ribs from what i have seen on other forums. Correct me if i am wrong. So I would need to find a similar pulley. Maybe from Vortech. Let me know if anyone finds one please. I will keep looking.