Topgunz - air to air upgrade

nic370 · 10-16-2017, 09:27 AM

I can't wait to see where the filter is located and if we keep the crash bar
My bet is we will

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nic370 · 10-16-2017, 09:33 AM

Yeah I think it will be stock mani like gtm

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TopgunZ · 10-16-2017, 09:41 AM

The design is similar to the old one. Just a lot better as it will come with the upgrades that guys are having to pay a lot more for. Its a supercharger kit that offers the power everyone wants but at a very affordable price.

Options will be available. A front crash bar is one of them.

milkcow500 · 10-16-2017, 10:01 AM

Here's some fun news for you guys. I know I haven't ran the V3 T-Trim for long, but I picked up a slightly damaged V7 YSI for cheap and will be installing it as soon as I get parts to rebuild it.

I'll be testing a few things out in regards to pulley combos and capping top end boost/torque. Hopefully my stock block will hold out, but we shall see.

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URBiN~HURMiT · 10-16-2017, 09:22 PM

'Here's some fun news for you guys. I know I haven't ran the V3 T-Trim for long, but I picked up a slightly damaged V7 YSI for cheap and will be installing it as soon as I get parts to rebuild it.'

I'll be testing a few things out in regards to pulley combos and capping top end boost/torque. Hopefully my stock block will hold out, but we shall see.

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hmmmmm... just sayin', might be more than just 'slightly' damaged ...

milkcow500 · 10-16-2017, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT

'Here's some fun news for you guys. I know I haven't ran the V3 T-Trim for long, but I picked up a slightly damaged V7 YSI for cheap and will be installing it as soon as I get parts to rebuild it.'

I'll be testing a few things out in regards to pulley combos and capping top end boost/torque. Hopefully my stock block will hold out, but we shall see.

( Click to show/hide )

hmmmmm... just sayin', might be more than just 'slightly' damaged ...

Only the impeller needs to be replaced, so for the price I got it for, it's slightly damaged

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URBiN~HURMiT · 10-16-2017, 09:58 PM

Different physical specs between the V3 and the V7.
Might not be an EZ swap

Vortech V3 specs:
Performance Specs

Internal Step-Up Ratio: 3.61:1
Max Speed: 52,000 RPM
Max Boost: 26 PSI
Max Flow: 1,150 CFM
Max Power: 775 HP
Peak Efficiency: 78%
Performance specs apply to units equipped with standard gearcase.

Dimensions

Discharge OD: 2.75"
Inlet OD: 3.5"
Discharge ID: 2.38"
Inducer Diameter: 3.1"

Vortech V7 specs:
Performance Specs

Internal Step-Up Ratio: 3.45:1
Max Speed: 66,000 RPM
Max Boost: 30+ PSI
Max Flow: 1,600 CFM
Max Power: 1,200+ HP
Peak Efficiency: 78%
Dimensions

Discharge OD: 3.0"
Inlet OD: 4.0"
Discharge ID: 2.64"
Inducer Diameter: 3.7"

milkcow500 · 10-16-2017, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT

Different physical specs between the V3 and the V7.
Might not be an EZ swap

Vortech V3 specs:
Performance Specs

Internal Step-Up Ratio: 3.61:1
Max Speed: 52,000 RPM
Max Boost: 26 PSI
Max Flow: 1,150 CFM
Max Power: 775 HP
Peak Efficiency: 78%
Performance specs apply to units equipped with standard gearcase.

Dimensions

Discharge OD: 2.75"
Inlet OD: 3.5"
Discharge ID: 2.38"
Inducer Diameter: 3.1"

Vortech V7 specs:
Performance Specs

Internal Step-Up Ratio: 3.45:1
Max Speed: 66,000 RPM
Max Boost: 30+ PSI
Max Flow: 1,600 CFM
Max Power: 1,200+ HP
Peak Efficiency: 78%
Dimensions

Discharge OD: 3.0"
Inlet OD: 4.0"
Discharge ID: 2.64"
Inducer Diameter: 3.7"

It uses the same mounting bracket as the V3 and has already been test fitted on another vehicle.

Edit: You are looking at the dimensions of the inlets/outlets by the way. I don't think they list the actual dimensions of the blowers, but you can find pics online. The V7 is slightly larger, but has the same mounting bolts.

URBiN~HURMiT · 10-17-2017, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkcow500

It uses the same mounting bracket as the V3 and has already been test fitted on another vehicle.

Edit: You are looking at the dimensions of the inlets/outlets by the way. I don't think they list the actual dimensions of the blowers, but you can find pics online. The V7 is slightly larger, but has the same mounting bolts.

As long as you know [and the V7 has successfully been integrated to the Stillen kit] ... the V7 is physically larger than the V3...and is overkill, unless you have a built motor and are really shooting for the moon power wise.
From what I've researched, the V7 is less efficient at lower RPMs.

The mounting bracket does work - it's the other clearances and belt alignments that you'll have to address.

I did attempt to upgrade the Stillen with a V2-TI a few years back [similar in size to the V7] and ran into some issues here.

This was before TogGunZ came out with his Stillen A2A kit.
TopGunZ bought my Stillen Kit to begin his design project.
Which has been 'Super' Successful by all accounts...Kudos.

milkcow500 · 10-17-2017, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT

As long as you know [and the V7 has successfully been integrated to the Stillen kit] ... the V7 is physically larger than the V3...and is overkill, unless you have a built motor and are really shooting for the moon power wise.
From what I've researched, the V7 is less efficient at lower RPMs.

The mounting bracket does work - it's the other clearances and belt alignments that you'll have to address.

I did attempt to upgrade the Stillen with a V2-TI a few years back [similar in size to the V7] and ran into some issues here.

This was before TogGunZ came out with his Stillen A2A kit.
TopGunZ bought my Stillen Kit to begin his design project.
Which has been 'Super' Successful by all accounts...Kudos.

Yeah, I actually didn't go this route at first because I heard the V2 had some issues. I guess it may have been you people were discussing.

There are certain properties to the V7 that are better than the V3 and there are multiple ways to fix the efficiency and lower end issues. Belt alignment is fine though. My only fear is that I may run into belt slip issues with this setup. I'll be posting a new thread once I get my car back, but it will be interesting to see how well the stock block handles.

URBiN~HURMiT · 10-17-2017, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkcow500

Yeah, I actually didn't go this route at first because I heard the V2 had some issues. I guess it may have been you people were discussing.

There are certain properties to the V7 that are better than the V3 and there are multiple ways to fix the efficiency and lower end issues. Belt alignment is fine though. My only fear is that I may run into belt slip issues with this setup. I'll be posting a new thread once I get my car back, but it will be interesting to see how well the stock block handles.

Go for it !!!

TopgunZ · 10-17-2017, 07:09 AM

Im excited to see the outcome of this project, Milkcow. You should start your own thread though so we can keep all this traffic organized.

Who knows. If this badboy works out good maybe it could be an option for others down the road who want a built motor setup.

TopgunZ · 10-18-2017, 08:01 AM

Again, the design is very similar to the existing design. The idea here is not for guys that have the A2A kit already to upgrade to a better kit. It is for those who want a supercharger and do not yet have a kit. So it is a kit available on the market for around $6k (tuner) that makes great power out of the box vs. having to spend upwards of $9 to $10K + to reach power limits that everyone is chasing with a supercharger.

sirnixalot · 10-18-2017, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Again, the design is very similar to the existing design. The idea here is not for guys that have the A2A kit already to upgrade to a better kit. It is for those who want a supercharger and do not yet have a kit. So it is a kit available on the market for around $6k (tuner) that makes great power out of the box vs. having to spend upwards of $9 to $10K + to reach power limits that everyone is chasing with a supercharger.

Will your new kit work with the stock intake manifold/throttle bodies?

TopgunZ · 10-18-2017, 10:50 AM

It will be replaced with the dual side manifold and keep the Y pipe. Stock throttle bodies are utilized.

10-16-2017, 09:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	The design is similar to the old one. Just a lot better as it will come with the upgrades that guys are having to pay a lot more for. Its a supercharger kit that offers the power everyone wants but at a very affordable price. Options will be available. A front crash bar is one of them. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

10-16-2017, 09:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
URBiN~HURMiT Base Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 156 Drives: 2009 370z 6MT Rep Power: 4622	Different physical specs between the V3 and the V7. Might not be an EZ swap Vortech V3 specs: Performance Specs Internal Step-Up Ratio: 3.61:1 Max Speed: 52,000 RPM Max Boost: 26 PSI Max Flow: 1,150 CFM Max Power: 775 HP Peak Efficiency: 78% Performance specs apply to units equipped with standard gearcase. Dimensions Discharge OD: 2.75" Inlet OD: 3.5" Discharge ID: 2.38" Inducer Diameter: 3.1" Vortech V7 specs: Performance Specs Internal Step-Up Ratio: 3.45:1 Max Speed: 66,000 RPM Max Boost: 30+ PSI Max Flow: 1,600 CFM Max Power: 1,200+ HP Peak Efficiency: 78% Dimensions Discharge OD: 3.0" Inlet OD: 4.0" Discharge ID: 2.64" Inducer Diameter: 3.7" __________________ - -*Z&I* ~~~~

10-17-2017, 07:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	Im excited to see the outcome of this project, Milkcow. You should start your own thread though so we can keep all this traffic organized. Who knows. If this badboy works out good maybe it could be an option for others down the road who want a built motor setup. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

10-18-2017, 08:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	Again, the design is very similar to the existing design. The idea here is not for guys that have the A2A kit already to upgrade to a better kit. It is for those who want a supercharger and do not yet have a kit. So it is a kit available on the market for around $6k (tuner) that makes great power out of the box vs. having to spend upwards of $9 to $10K + to reach power limits that everyone is chasing with a supercharger. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

10-18-2017, 10:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	It will be replaced with the dual side manifold and keep the Y pipe. Stock throttle bodies are utilized. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

10-16-2017, 09:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
nic370 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: uk Posts: 187 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 12	I can't wait to see where the filter is located and if we keep the crash bar My bet is we will Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

10-16-2017, 09:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
nic370 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: uk Posts: 187 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 12	Yeah I think it will be stock mani like gtm Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

10-16-2017, 10:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
milkcow500 Base Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: NYC Posts: 176 Drives: 11 G37xs Rep Power: 45	Here's some fun news for you guys. I know I haven't ran the V3 T-Trim for long, but I picked up a slightly damaged V7 YSI for cheap and will be installing it as soon as I get parts to rebuild it. I'll be testing a few things out in regards to pulley combos and capping top end boost/torque. Hopefully my stock block will hold out, but we shall see. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

10-16-2017, 09:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
URBiN~HURMiT Base Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 156 Drives: 2009 370z 6MT Rep Power: 4622	'Here's some fun news for you guys. I know I haven't ran the V3 T-Trim for long, but I picked up a slightly damaged V7 YSI for cheap and will be installing it as soon as I get parts to rebuild it.' I'll be testing a few things out in regards to pulley combos and capping top end boost/torque. Hopefully my stock block will hold out, but we shall see. ( Click to show/hide ) hmmmmm... just sayin', might be more than just 'slightly' damaged ...

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