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Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw Just pointing out.... Z1's shop car hit 356 rwhp. Doesn't seem that far off from this car's numbers, So that's two different cars, with presumably similar

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Old 05-07-2014, 10:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just pointing out....

Z1's shop car hit 356 rwhp. Doesn't seem that far off from this car's numbers,

So that's two different cars, with presumably similar mods on two separate dynos making similar gains.

Could just be the Georgia Air
The after HP # doesn't really concern me. I can make a dyno read pretty much whatever I want to read within reason. The only way to accurately measure HP gains is to do a before dyno with the same car and preferably on the same day (or as close as possible) as the after dyno. Comparing someone else's before dyno to your after dyno is pretty much useless.

What concerns me is that we are being shown a before dyno of 272 (correct me if I am wrong) and an after dyno of 361 (again, correct me if I am wrong) which means we are looking at a supposed gain of 89 RWHP. I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. These are either dyno sheets of 2 different cars and/or they were taken at 2 different periods of time. Show me the before dyno of the same car and the after dyno of the same car taken on the same day (or close to it) with all the other factors being the same, and then let's talk turkey.

Again, if I am wrong, please let me know, because I can't see the actual dyno sheets posted due to the firewall in place at work. I am just going on #'s that are being mentioned in the thread.
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The after HP # doesn't really concern me. I can make a dyno read pretty much whatever I want to read within reason. The only way to accurately measure HP gains is to do a before dyno with the same car and preferably on the same day (or as close as possible) as the after dyno. Comparing someone else's before dyno to your after dyno is pretty much useless.

What concerns me is that we are being shown a before dyno of 272 (correct me if I am wrong) and an after dyno of 361 (again, correct me if I am wrong) which means we are looking at a supposed gain of 89 RWHP. I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. These are either dyno sheets of 2 different cars and/or they were taken at 2 different periods of time. Show me the before dyno of the same car and the after dyno of the same car taken on the same day (or close to it) with all the other factors being the same, and then let's talk turkey.


Most Nismos seem to dyno between 280-290whp, right? Work blocks most images here too- is the correction factor the same on both dyno charts?
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What concerns me is that we are being shown a before dyno of 272 (correct me if I am wrong) and an after dyno of 361 (again, correct me if I am wrong) which means we are looking at a supposed gain of 89 RWHP. I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. These are either dyno sheets of 2 different cars and/or they were taken at 2 different periods of time. Show me the before dyno of the same car and the after dyno of the same car taken on the same day (or close to it) with all the other factors being the same, and then let's talk turkey.
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In my opinion and the testing Ive done in the pass tells me there is much more the VVEL engine can give than what we been used to..

I mostly always did a (before / after) after each modification and its has been repeatable every time.

2 years ago I managed a gain of 68whp and with the current knowledge that we gathered for the pass year . I have no doubt about this 80+gain especially with E85 which proved gain in N/A form same with good race gas, also add the fact the VVEL is now fully tunable by Pro Tuner which can add quite a bit depending on your intake/exhaust setup

at 360whp their 3'' single is actually restricting the flow just saying.
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In my opinion and the testing Ive done in the pass tells me there is much more the VVEL engine can give than what we been used to..

I mostly always did a (before / after) after each modification and its has been repeatable every time.

2 years ago I managed a gain of 68whp and with the current knowledge that we gathered for the pass year . I have no doubt about this 80+gain especially with E85 which proved gain in N/A form same with good race gas, also add the fact the VVEL is now fully tunable by Pro Tuner which can add quite a bit depending on your intake/exhaust setup

at 360whp their 3'' single is actually restricting the flow just saying.
E85 always the unmentioned mod. Larger injectors and whatever else is required for e85 simply isnt normally in the heads of ppl when we think NA 370z.

Waych yhe 360 whp car do the qtt at 12.6 - 12.7 only then to be told, oh yeah i have 4.08 gears.

Plus manual vs auto effecys dyno #s i was told m370 affects my peak hp (lower), my point a million variables, spend 20 bucks and jam it down the qtr. Im no drag expert and at least in the 7at its pretty damn easy

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