EcuTek is proud to announce the release of ProECU Tuning Tools for the Nissan 370Z

O&G · 05-01-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by visconti

Don't think it matters.

If they have nothing right now and want to become just a 370Z tuner it's about $2000 for the 370Z Tuning software + EcuTek Cable..

When you purchase the software you'll need to buy $1250 with of programming liceneses.

So $3300

-John

Thank you sir

SS_Firehawk · 05-01-2013, 11:47 AM

Man I hope this kicks as much @ss as it sounds.

Ron · 05-01-2013, 12:37 PM

^^Justin keep me posted!

MyKindaGuise · 05-01-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Both of you are Clearly mistaken then if you think people are asking questions to have their "asses kissed". That's just as immature as completely ignoring valid questions posed about your product.

You come on here saying you have a vastly superior product (which you very well might, no one is denying the potential) yet Zero proof to the end user accept your word, and the fact that others are getting in line. That's all well and good for the guy who Hasn't been tuned yet. But as it was stated before, you have competition, UpRev. Who has been in the market already for years and has done several Zs. We are asking as users that have already had tune A, that if tune B is better, and we will most definitely want it, to see proof of HOW it is better before spending the same amount from tune A all over again.

Now again, you say you have a superior product, that is Better than the competition. Yet you will provide zero proof or evidence to support that claim. On top of that, you get an attitude and talk down to members asking for you to post some sort of evidence and comparison. But as of yet, there is nothing. You've posted a gain over a STOCK 370Z. That's nice, but that's not any different than what UpRev gives you. So as it stands right now, you are on a level playing field. There's been nothing proven that shows your product is superior. Again, this is not saying that it may not be, but that as of yet, there is no evidence to substantiate this claim.

If you didn't have the numbers yet, then say so. And people would wait for reviews and build threads. But your advertising it is better, and then blatantly refuse to respond to direct questions paints a bad picture. If the software is good to go to the market, you've obviously Tested it on a Z correct? All of the features you claim you can control would have had to be given a basic quality assurance test on some car before you give it to the people... right? So where is that data? Cause I guarantee you, if you take an UpRev tuned car, and put your software on it, and still make more gains Safely, you'll have people knocking down your door to get it. Instead, you insult the people whom you hope to gain the business of. Not a good way of attracting customers...

tl;dr

XwChriswX · 05-01-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

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Both of you are Clearly mistaken then if you think people are asking questions to have their "asses kissed". That's just as immature as completely ignoring valid questions posed about your product.

You come on here saying you have a vastly superior product (which you very well might, no one is denying the potential) yet Zero proof to the end user accept your word, and the fact that others are getting in line. That's all well and good for the guy who Hasn't been tuned yet. But as it was stated before, you have competition, UpRev. Who has been in the market already for years and has done several Zs. We are asking as users that have already had tune A, that if tune B is better, and we will most definitely want it, to see proof of HOW it is better before spending the same amount from tune A all over again.

Now again, you say you have a superior product, that is Better than the competition. Yet you will provide zero proof or evidence to support that claim. On top of that, you get an attitude and talk down to members asking for you to post some sort of evidence and comparison. But as of yet, there is nothing. You've posted a gain over a STOCK 370Z. That's nice, but that's not any different than what UpRev gives you. So as it stands right now, you are on a level playing field. There's been nothing proven that shows your product is superior. Again, this is not saying that it may not be, but that as of yet, there is no evidence to substantiate this claim.

If you didn't have the numbers yet, then say so. And people would wait for reviews and build threads. But your advertising it is better, and then blatantly refuse to respond to direct questions paints a bad picture. If the software is good to go to the market, you've obviously Tested it on a Z correct? All of the features you claim you can control would have had to be given a basic quality assurance test on some car before you give it to the people... right? So where is that data? Cause I guarantee you, if you take an UpRev tuned car, and put your software on it, and still make more gains Safely, you'll have people knocking down your door to get it. Instead, you insult the people whom you hope to gain the business of. Not a good way of attracting customers...

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

tl;dr

Readers Digest Version:

1. No one wants their asses kissed.
2. It's not wrong to question vendors products.
3. Don't be a dick when your product is questioned by the very people whose business you want.

gomer_110 · 05-01-2013, 08:04 PM

One more thing Visconti pointed out as far as Uprev vs ECUtek comparisons go is that to have a true apples to apples comparison the same tuner would have to tune using Uprev and then tune using ECUtek since not all tuners are equal.

visconti · 05-03-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

One more thing Visconti pointed out as far as Uprev vs ECUtek comparisons go is that to have a true apples to apples comparison the same tuner would have to tune using Uprev and then tune using ECUtek since not all tuners are equal.

EcuTek added support to your ecu this morning

John

roplusbee · 05-01-2013, 09:59 PM

I stopped listening a while ago. Since there are folks out there looking to make a move on this product, I just hope that they will actually post on their experience..........

diddy535 · 05-02-2013, 08:55 AM

It's just going to take time. Right now there's really not enough vendors running ecutek and apparently it doesn't work on every ECU version that we even have.

This guy can post all the dyno maps he wants but seriously that still won't be enough for most people. It's going to take forum members, who already had uprev, going and testing the waters or a bigger reputable (as in reputable on this particular forum) tuner like Z1 showing differences between the two. It's expensive to do all that and unreasonable to expect anyone to do it but let's be honest - that's really what we're all waiting for.

JARblue · 05-02-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by diddy535

It's just going to take time. Right now there's really not enough vendors running ecutek and apparently it doesn't work on every ECU version that we even have.

This guy can post all the dyno maps he wants but seriously that still won't be enough for most people. It's going to take forum members, who already had uprev, going and testing the waters or a bigger reputable (as in reputable on this particular forum) tuner like Z1 showing differences between the two. It's expensive to do all that and unreasonable to expect anyone to do it but let's be honest - that's really what we're all waiting for.

It's not that it doesn't work. ECUtek just doesn't have all the various Z base maps in their software. From what I can tell, they don't have my 2011 US 6MT yet, but I am going to visit the tuner this weekend where they will get all of the information from my car, send it to ECUtek, who will then update their software (they claim this process generally takes less than a week). After that, the tuner has everything he needs for tuning my Z

And there's always a chance that some other Z in the same category has already given their info to ECUtek, making my car ready for tuning when I show up this weekend. Not getting my hopes up, though. I know this is going to be a process.

Exactly! Excellent points

This $hit is new. The tuners are excited and I haven't seen them claim anything outrageous, so no reason to dog them - they claim gains and they claim they unlock more than UpRev giving potential for more gains. I don't understand how you can get mad at them for saying this stuff. As diddy said, it will take someone spending a bunch of $$$ to satisfy a bunch of you. If you don't want to be a guinea pig, then you'll have to wait for someone to post their experience. Now I'm in the very fortunate position of not having spent a lot of money on an UpRev tune already, and having a nearby tuner for which to be a guinea pig. Those of you with UpRev will either need to be one of the first and see for yourself, or wait for someone else. There are absolutely people that will do this. Just be patient.

MyKindaGuise · 05-02-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

It's not that it doesn't work. ECUtek just doesn't have all the various Z base maps in their software. From what I can tell, they don't have my 2011 US 6MT yet, but I am going to visit the tuner this weekend where they will get all of the information from my car, send it to ECUtek, who will then update their software (they claim this process generally takes less than a week). After that, the tuner has everything he needs for tuning my Z

And there's always a chance that some other Z in the same category has already given their info to ECUtek, making my car ready for tuning when I show up this weekend. Not getting my hopes up, though. I know this is going to be a process.

They have my 2011 US 6MT sport.

Visconti is coming down to PA this weekend and will hopefully be tuning me while here. So I should hopefully be able to report back with dynos.

JARblue · 05-02-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise

They have my 2011 US 6MT sport.

Visconti is coming down to PA this weekend and will hopefully be tuning me while here. So I should hopefully be able to report back with dynos.

Excellent

I hope it's the same map

I just talked to the tuner and scheduled for 11 am on Sunday this weekend. He said they've had like 20+ maps uploaded in the past 10 days, so it definitely wouldn't surprise me to find mine included in the support now.

O&G · 05-02-2013, 10:06 AM

My tuner has been familiar with Ecutek for a long time but on other platforms, not Nissans. They are a reputable company that have made good contributions to the industry. I have yet to see any convincing data for our platform, but as stated, it is very new. The single ignition timing map they are offering will be the biggest improvement for NA Z's over UpRev by far. The car will hold the correct ignition timing throughout the entire RPM range without the stock ecu interfering. It will help in FI applications too, but I don't run as much timing FI'd as a NA Z would. My tuner was particularly excited about the fact that someone has finally addressed that issue. The VVEL control would be the next big step. When they finalize that part of the software they will take over the market. As far as traction control, it can be done some what right now w/ UpRev but could be refined, tweaked and made to be moar betta.

Nixlimited · 05-02-2013, 10:39 AM

I would like to see some tuning package be able to remap the SRM for different FD ratios.

elperuano · 05-02-2013, 10:51 AM

It's all about customer service and expecting to be treated fairly right if I'm dropping 1k on a tune. I'm boosted as well and I know GTR have been using ecutek as well. They don't have much options if I remember correctly. Just Cobb (which was never great for the Nissan platform) and now ecutek.

That being said the kind of responses from simple question this guy gives trying to "promote" this product is ridiculous. Could u imagine the kind of help you'd get if u need trouble shooting with ur software or tune if this is the kind of response ur getting from simple questions? Apparently they're doin very well without this community which seems to give him some kind of "don't care here it is attitude".

Squeeze is very well respected around here and his Z is a built monster. His input goes a long ways. But he won't be tuning your car neither.

The way you treat potential customers goes a long ways. I'm happy with my boosted Uprev numbers and the service I get from them also. Better or not better, he has made my personal choice very easy to stick with what I'm running with.

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gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	One more thing Visconti pointed out as far as Uprev vs ECUtek comparisons go is that to have a true apples to apples comparison the same tuner would have to tune using Uprev and then tune using ECUtek since not all tuners are equal. Mr.Squeeze and elperuano like this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

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roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 23	I stopped listening a while ago. Since there are folks out there looking to make a move on this product, I just hope that they will actually post on their experience.......... __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

05-02-2013, 08:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
diddy535 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 789 Drives: '09 370Z RAE 6MT Rep Power: 15	It's just going to take time. Right now there's really not enough vendors running ecutek and apparently it doesn't work on every ECU version that we even have. This guy can post all the dyno maps he wants but seriously that still won't be enough for most people. It's going to take forum members, who already had uprev, going and testing the waters or a bigger reputable (as in reputable on this particular forum) tuner like Z1 showing differences between the two. It's expensive to do all that and unreasonable to expect anyone to do it but let's be honest - that's really what we're all waiting for. __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ys-thread.html

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O&G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lone Star State Age: 42 Posts: 1,212 Drives: 40th Anv. Rep Power: 23	My tuner has been familiar with Ecutek for a long time but on other platforms, not Nissans. They are a reputable company that have made good contributions to the industry. I have yet to see any convincing data for our platform, but as stated, it is very new. The single ignition timing map they are offering will be the biggest improvement for NA Z's over UpRev by far. The car will hold the correct ignition timing throughout the entire RPM range without the stock ecu interfering. It will help in FI applications too, but I don't run as much timing FI'd as a NA Z would. My tuner was particularly excited about the fact that someone has finally addressed that issue. The VVEL control would be the next big step. When they finalize that part of the software they will take over the market. As far as traction control, it can be done some what right now w/ UpRev but could be refined, tweaked and made to be moar betta. wheee! likes this. __________________ O&G's Build/Journal <---(1st lowmount single turbo treeseventy) Built Engine Thread 2011 F-250 Build/Journal

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Nixlimited A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,235 Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius Rep Power: 26	I would like to see some tuning package be able to remap the SRM for different FD ratios. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ Car Sold! Pleasure being a part of the Z community. New ride: 2015 GT-R - 647 WHP / 641 WTQ (e85) & 543 WHP / 519 WTQ (91)

05-02-2013, 10:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	It's all about customer service and expecting to be treated fairly right if I'm dropping 1k on a tune. I'm boosted as well and I know GTR have been using ecutek as well. They don't have much options if I remember correctly. Just Cobb (which was never great for the Nissan platform) and now ecutek. That being said the kind of responses from simple question this guy gives trying to "promote" this product is ridiculous. Could u imagine the kind of help you'd get if u need trouble shooting with ur software or tune if this is the kind of response ur getting from simple questions? Apparently they're doin very well without this community which seems to give him some kind of "don't care here it is attitude". Squeeze is very well respected around here and his Z is a built monster. His input goes a long ways. But he won't be tuning your car neither. The way you treat potential customers goes a long ways. I'm happy with my boosted Uprev numbers and the service I get from them also. Better or not better, he has made my personal choice very easy to stick with what I'm running with. XwChriswX, SouthArk370Z, O&G and 2 others like this.

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