Remote start

ChadBlondiau · 09-24-2009, 01:11 AM

They has to be more info on 350z g37 remote start.I know someone has a answer.SOMEONE has a 350z or 3g5/g37 with remot start/.

shumby · 09-24-2009, 01:16 AM

remote starter $1000!!!!!????? - MyG37

1101T - Universal Proximity Key Bypass

Here's what they say. Hope this helps:

Patrick, The basic remote starter that we use in a product of Directed electronics, also we use a Can-Bus module that learns the rolling code of the intelligent key and integrates with the electronics of the G37, finally we make a modification so the remote starter works with the existing factory remote. The system is engaged by hitting the lock button twice, once you get in the car with the intelligent key you step on the brake and the vehicle acknowledges that the key is now in the car and it switches over and u drive away.

I hope this answers your questions.

Brian Cullinan
Parts and Service Director
Fields Infiniti
(847)998-5200
F847)835-0843

some info i found

ZeeRay · 09-24-2009, 11:04 AM

Here is a question about our key fobs. I can start my car and walk away, the car stays running. Is there a time or distance limit on this? Obviously if the car was shut off somewhere it would require the key to restart, but honestly for me that is to late.

vipor · 09-24-2009, 12:09 PM

Remote start alarms (or stand-alones) have timers that are programmable to dictate how long they will run. Most people will set them to 10-15mins.

Pressing the foot brake or any other failsafe you wire in would kill the car without inserting your key (or getting in the car with your fob in this case.) I'd recommend wiring in a parking brake requirement and a clutch shutdown on 6MTs.

No reputable shop should install a remote start on a customer's car, unless things have changed with the fact that you can now accurately monitor which gear the car is or isn't in. I've seen installs in the past using a grounding system of springs where when they make contact with the shifter it disables the remote start. I did a side job for someone many years ago on a manual transmission and all was well for about a year. The kid dropped his car off at a dealer for a recall on his dash (it was a ford where the dash was peeling up from its frame) and he attempted to start the car. It jumped into the side of the building as the tech had left it in gear, good times.

I love the fact that your guy at Infiniti stated that the remote start works with the factory keyfob, I'd be interested to see how that works. I'm assuming the factory alarm module has some unused outputs. Take for instance that most Infinitis and higher end Nissans have been able to roll down their windows by holding the "Unlock" button on their fobs for a while.

bigaudiofanat · 09-24-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeRay

Here is a question about our key fobs. I can start my car and walk away, the car stays running. Is there a time or distance limit on this? Obviously if the car was shut off somewhere it would require the key to restart, but honestly for me that is to late.

No once the car gets the signal it needs to turn on it will not shut off until the user turns the car off.

bigaudiofanat · 09-24-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

LOL my friend if only you knew. You have so much going on that I think that it will be a while before it is even possible to do. You see your transponder is what tells the engine and the system it is okay to start. This controls everything so without that the car will not start. So in older cars were the chip was inside the key you needed a transponder that held the key inside a box under the dash and tricked the car into thinking it was okay to start. The problem with your transponder is if that is in the car weather it be inside that box or in our pocket. Not only can you start the car but drive away with it as well and unlock the doors to. So If you did a remote start and you hit the start button on your key less remote. Someone could literaly walk up hit the button to unlock thhe car get in and drive off. I just think it will be a while before anyone dose one in this car. PLay it safe and wait.

This I can not reiterate enough. If you have the fob in your car you can unlock your car even when it is on. I really do not think you can install a remote start on the z or any car that has key less entry and key less start for that matter.

nogoodname · 09-24-2009, 01:40 PM

yes you can... remote start can be installed on a Z

well, on the G at least..... should be the samething anyways

vipor · 09-24-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

I was just doing some looking around, looks like there's an interface module out already. It interfaces with the OBDII port, I remember starting to see some like this back in the day when I was still installing.

Programmable Platform#07:CAN Bus High Speed Interface
XpressKit.com - Compatibility Chart

Looks like I'll be installing one of these in the next couple months, should be a fun refresher

Might go with the new Clifford Matrix 50.7X or Viper 5901, can't remember which I have access too.

You don't have to hide a fob in the car, the CAN Interface Module communicates with the car directly, not using a prox fob or transponder. Follow the first link from my previous post, click on "Manual Downloads" then the "PKN3" sub menu and read the Maxima Intelli-key Manual. Looks like it takes the whole being able to unlock the car thing out of the mix.

bigaudiofanat · 09-24-2009, 02:06 PM

Interesting bet it is a PITA though but able to be done. In the words of Vin Diesel "I retract my previous statement"

vipor · 09-24-2009, 02:10 PM

I'm awaiting a quote for the Clifford Matrix with the CAN Module, hopefully I'll hear back by tomorrow. Once I'm ready to do this I'll create an extensive DIY. I've never really documented my work, only before and after pictures, so it'll be fun.

bigaudiofanat · 09-24-2009, 02:26 PM

Indeed PM sent

cpehaot · 09-24-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist

Why remote start? Can anyone give me a logical answer as to why people are so eager to start the car from far away? What purpose does it serve?

Summer + Leather seat.

marcussoori · 09-24-2009, 04:03 PM

or winter + any seat

vipor · 09-24-2009, 05:36 PM

Using auxiliary relays on the remote start system you can even trigger a defroster or seat warmer. Many years ago I had my alarm set up where I could start the car, vent the windows and sunroof (independently), and had a relay bypass the accessory power input to the stereo so it wouldn't blast if I had left it up to high. Although I could switch it back on with just the push of a button. The alarm was also set up to close my windows and sunroof upon arming, unless I hit a bypass button beforehand. It's just a fun luxury that is actually useful at times, especially in the Texas heat.

MeetJoeAsian · 10-01-2009, 11:48 PM

I don't know about the Z, but in Toyota smart keys, there is an option to turn off the smart key feature, where you will have to use your clicker to unlock and lock the door instead of pressing the button on your door handle...I"m sure there's one for the Z too...so I guess if you want to shut off that feature of your car, then you can definitely install remote start for your car...

09-24-2009, 01:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
ChadBlondiau Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 34 Drives: Base m/t fk synro Rep Power: 15	They has to be more info on 350z g37 remote start.I know someone has a answer.SOMEONE has a 350z or 3g5/g37 with remot start/. __________________ Got 370 money?

09-24-2009, 01:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	remote starter $1000!!!!!????? - MyG37 1101T - Universal Proximity Key Bypass Here's what they say. Hope this helps: Patrick, The basic remote starter that we use in a product of Directed electronics, also we use a Can-Bus module that learns the rolling code of the intelligent key and integrates with the electronics of the G37, finally we make a modification so the remote starter works with the existing factory remote. The system is engaged by hitting the lock button twice, once you get in the car with the intelligent key you step on the brake and the vehicle acknowledges that the key is now in the car and it switches over and u drive away. I hope this answers your questions. Brian Cullinan Parts and Service Director Fields Infiniti (847)998-5200 F847)835-0843 some info i found __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-24-2009, 12:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	Remote start alarms (or stand-alones) have timers that are programmable to dictate how long they will run. Most people will set them to 10-15mins. Pressing the foot brake or any other failsafe you wire in would kill the car without inserting your key (or getting in the car with your fob in this case.) I'd recommend wiring in a parking brake requirement and a clutch shutdown on 6MTs. No reputable shop should install a remote start on a customer's car, unless things have changed with the fact that you can now accurately monitor which gear the car is or isn't in. I've seen installs in the past using a grounding system of springs where when they make contact with the shifter it disables the remote start. I did a side job for someone many years ago on a manual transmission and all was well for about a year. The kid dropped his car off at a dealer for a recall on his dash (it was a ford where the dash was peeling up from its frame) and he attempted to start the car. It jumped into the side of the building as the tech had left it in gear, good times. I love the fact that your guy at Infiniti stated that the remote start works with the factory keyfob, I'd be interested to see how that works. I'm assuming the factory alarm module has some unused outputs. Take for instance that most Infinitis and higher end Nissans have been able to roll down their windows by holding the "Unlock" button on their fobs for a while. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

09-24-2009, 02:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	Interesting bet it is a PITA though but able to be done. In the words of Vin Diesel "I retract my previous statement" __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-24-2009, 02:10 PM	#25 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	I'm awaiting a quote for the Clifford Matrix with the CAN Module, hopefully I'll hear back by tomorrow. Once I'm ready to do this I'll create an extensive DIY. I've never really documented my work, only before and after pictures, so it'll be fun. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

09-24-2009, 11:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
ZeeRay Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lawton, Ok Posts: 51 Drives: 370Z and a Corvette Rep Power: 15	Here is a question about our key fobs. I can start my car and walk away, the car stays running. Is there a time or distance limit on this? Obviously if the car was shut off somewhere it would require the key to restart, but honestly for me that is to late.

09-24-2009, 01:40 PM	#22 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	yes you can... remote start can be installed on a Z well, on the G at least..... should be the samething anyways

09-24-2009, 02:26 PM	#26 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	Indeed PM sent __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-24-2009, 04:03 PM	#28 (permalink)
marcussoori Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 468 Drives: 09 370Z Red AT Sport Rep Power: 16	or winter + any seat

09-24-2009, 05:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	Using auxiliary relays on the remote start system you can even trigger a defroster or seat warmer. Many years ago I had my alarm set up where I could start the car, vent the windows and sunroof (independently), and had a relay bypass the accessory power input to the stereo so it wouldn't blast if I had left it up to high. Although I could switch it back on with just the push of a button. The alarm was also set up to close my windows and sunroof upon arming, unless I hit a bypass button beforehand. It's just a fun luxury that is actually useful at times, especially in the Texas heat. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

10-01-2009, 11:48 PM	#30 (permalink)
MeetJoeAsian Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 342 Drives: 350Z to G35c to 370Z Rep Power: 15	I don't know about the Z, but in Toyota smart keys, there is an option to turn off the smart key feature, where you will have to use your clicker to unlock and lock the door instead of pressing the button on your door handle...I"m sure there's one for the Z too...so I guess if you want to shut off that feature of your car, then you can definitely install remote start for your car... __________________ http://facebook.com/meetjoeasian

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