The next gen Z!

cavemancan

Your right with the exception that a properly sized turbo will have little to no lag dude. Especially those twin scroll units. Granted most factory cars are not so equiped but some are.



HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.

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Trollololololo?

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b1adesofcha0s

The 5.0 does give more Performance/$ than the Z as well and that includes around a road course. Have you looked at prices for a Boss 302? You can get a Boss 302 for around the same price as a Nismo 370Z so it is definitely relevant.

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cavemancan

A sport 370 Z and a Nismo have almost zero differences on a track. The Nismo edition is just another way for Nissan to squeeze our pockets so it is not the fair price point. Rather the 370 z Sport at $34k should be the fair price point therefore the Boss is much more expensive.

Now I do think you made a valid point. Did not know the 2011 Mustangs improved there suspension to the point its at now. So I take back my comment with one exception:

- That is the best solid axel Ive ever seen BUT still a poor design. An uneducated guess would be that the 2011 Mustang prob wont get any better with that axel. And I still dont like the way they look.

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b1adesofcha0s

1) Regardless of whether or not the Nismo is fairly priced, it's still within the range of the Boss. If not a Nismo, you can take a look at a Sport/Touring/Nav Z and it will be pretty close to $40k as well.

2) Solid axle might not be the best suspension design, but they found a way to make it work and that's all that matters. It's going away with the next gen Mustang and the looks are supposed to be more modern as well. The next gen 5.0 is currently #1 on my list of potential next cars. C7 could be an option as well. Nissan would have to do some major performance upgrades for me to consider getting another Z again, especially with the way it's price has been creeping up year after year with no real improvements.

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shadoquad

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Red__Zed

I am curious what your information is based on...please enlighten us.



Not to mention...Boss 302:


Boss 302 2dr Car
6-speed Manual
$38,930 invoice



370Z...you can tack another $3k on these price, as they DO NOT include the sport package

Base 2dr Car

6-speed Manual
$31,026
$33,120
Base 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

7-speed Automatic
$32,242
$34,420
Touring 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

6-speed Manual
$35,027
$37,820
Touring 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

7-speed Automatic
$36,229
$39,120
NISMO 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

6-speed Manual
$40,182
$43,020



Oops...hell, the getting Touring or the Nismo costs MORE!

shadoquad

You don't need sports package. Much like wider tires on an FRS, it takes away from it being a "driver's car" and in reference to the Mustang, "better balance".

Red__Zed

I plan to swap my tires for something narrower today!

b1adesofcha0s

Just drive around on the rotors. A lot less weight and much more direct braking feel

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Spikuh

If you want a car to handle well, it needs to be on these:



Absolutely zero over/understeer and you will never miss an apex.

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cavemancan

The Boss 302 package is a performance package is it not? One that clearly works and makes the mustang much faster.

The Nismo package does nothing more then make it pretty. Touring adds some bells and whisltes but thats it. The Sports package is the only relevant package at what $34k. So $34k 370z compared to a $40k Mustang is not a fair compareson. You can add a butt load of after market for that price difference.

Either way I resinded my comment concerning the newer mustangs with exception.

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b1adesofcha0s

The Nismo comes with 18 HP more than the base or sport pkg Z and a slightly different suspension. How is this not a performance package? Prices are the same either way, doesn't matter if they are actually worth it or not. The Nismo (Nissan Motorsports) is considered the performance model of the 370Z, just like the Boss is considered the performance model of the Mustang (in addition to the GT500, but that's a different story).

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cavemancan

It is not...Sport model MSRP is $36,900 and Boss is $42,200. Thats still over $5k difference.

Because 18 more HP and suspension components did nothing for it's track times as compared to a base Sport model.

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UNKNOWN_370

The body kit on the Nismo creates more downforce, wider tires slightly improve the grip. Tighter spring ratio make the car more stable in turns. While the Nismo performance upgrade doesn't change performance numbers. It creates a better more racy driving experience... Yes its true that about 1800 in mods can give u the same performance as a sport. Track times don't even need the Nismo pkg. But you will be putting more effort to be track stable.

The stang Boss302... you know nothing about that car. With the 2013 GT packages you can make a Boss without the Boss Body. The Nismo and the stang don't qualify on the same track if we're looking for proper matches. I wish people would stop comparing Z's and Stangs... And if you want to compare the two? Sadly, the V6 is the Z competitor. Which its still not in the same league.


Lastly... wasn't this a BRZ thread? This thread has become garbage due to wick wack posting.