The next gen Z!

CDepp · 12-26-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

I obviously have or I wouldn't have made my argument. Your comparing a modified car to a proposed factory car. So tell me again at what rpm the turbo begins to spin? The rest of the world does not want to wait for power, when the gas is pressed, they want the desired results now, not in a few seconds.

INSTANT GRATIFICATION!!!!!!

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-26-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

3200 pounds is pretty light. Would be great if Nissan could get the Z down there...would probably make it a lot more competitive, especially if they got some of the weight off the nose.

Yeah, this would be more important than the actual amount of weight lost. 3000 lbs would be nice, but if we were 3150lbs with a smaller engine, slightly longer nose and the engine pushed all the way back? That would definitely work. The VQ37 is far back in the Z but the engine is kinda big for the space under the hood.

Somberlaine · 12-27-2012, 08:45 AM

a potential Z engine?

A new 550+-horsepower Infiniti flagship sedan is in the pipeline, confirmed Infiniti boss Johan de Nysschen in an open letter to Infiniti owners on Wednesday.
He said the new performance sedan will get a "potent charged induction V6."
The new Infiniti flagship sedan is expected to target the Jaguar XF.

New 550+-Horsepower Infiniti Flagship Sedan in the Works

b1adesofcha0s · 12-27-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Somberlaine

a potential Z engine?

A new 550+-horsepower Infiniti flagship sedan is in the pipeline, confirmed Infiniti boss Johan de Nysschen in an open letter to Infiniti owners on Wednesday.
He said the new performance sedan will get a "potent charged induction V6."
The new Infiniti flagship sedan is expected to target the Jaguar XF.

New 550+-Horsepower Infiniti Flagship Sedan in the Works

I highly doubt it. They're not going to give the Z as much power as a GT-R. Maybe they'll give the Z just the N/A version of that engine.

Spikuh · 12-27-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I highly doubt it. They're not going to give the Z as much power as a GT-R. Maybe they'll give the Z just the N/A version of that engine.

The GT-R is at what, 585 or so I think? Throwing a 550hp engine into the Z, which is already considerably lighter and the next model "should" be lighter still, is going to make it more or less on the same level as the GT-R. Granted the GT-R has launch control so it would get the initial jump; once the Z got full traction, I imagine it would walk the GT-R from that point.

On top of that, the Z has been following the G line, so look there for clues.

Somberlaine · 12-27-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I highly doubt it. They're not going to give the Z as much power as a GT-R. Maybe they'll give the Z just the N/A version of that engine.

I didn't think so either but some variation of this same "potent charged induction V6."

cavemancan · 12-27-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

I obviously have or I wouldn't have made my argument. Your comparing a modified car to a proposed factory car. So tell me again at what rpm the turbo begins to spin? The rest of the world does not want to wait for power, when the gas is pressed, they want the desired results now, not in a few seconds.

Your right with the exception that a properly sized turbo will have little to no lag dude. Especially those twin scroll units. Granted most factory cars are not so equiped but some are.

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Well their V8 versions offer more HP/$ than the Z. The 5.0 is definitely a better performance bargain and has more mod potential.

HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.

Spikuh · 12-27-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cavemancan

Your right with the exception that a properly sized turbo will have little to no lag dude. Especially those twin scroll units. Granted most factory cars are not so equiped but some are.

HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.

Trollololololo?

b1adesofcha0s · 12-27-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cavemancan

Your right with the exception that a properly sized turbo will have little to no lag dude. Especially those twin scroll units. Granted most factory cars are not so equiped but some are.

HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.

The 5.0 does give more Performance/$ than the Z as well and that includes around a road course. Have you looked at prices for a Boss 302? You can get a Boss 302 for around the same price as a Nismo 370Z so it is definitely relevant.

b1adesofcha0s · 12-27-2012, 11:37 AM

Spikuh · 12-27-2012, 11:40 AM

Blades, stop padding your post count with proof!!! I WILL tell the Aventadors you are cheating on them with a Ford...

b1adesofcha0s · 12-27-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

Blades, stop padding your post count with proof!!! I WILL tell the Aventadors you are cheating on them with a Ford...

I would never cheat on Aventadors! How dare you say such things sir, that is blasphemy!

shadoquad · 12-27-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cavemancan

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.

Red__Zed · 12-27-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cavemancan

HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.

I am curious what your information is based on...please enlighten us.

Not to mention...Boss 302:

Boss 302 2dr Car
6-speed Manual
$38,930 invoice

370Z...you can tack another $3k on these price, as they DO NOT include the sport package

Base 2dr Car

6-speed Manual
$31,026
$33,120
Base 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

7-speed Automatic
$32,242
$34,420
Touring 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

6-speed Manual
$35,027
$37,820
Touring 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

7-speed Automatic
$36,229
$39,120
NISMO 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

6-speed Manual
$40,182
$43,020

Oops...hell, the getting Touring or the Nismo costs MORE!

shadoquad · 12-27-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

370Z...you can tack another $3k on these price, as they DO NOT include the sport package

You don't need sports package. Much like wider tires on an FRS, it takes away from it being a "driver's car" and in reference to the Mustang, "better balance".

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