interesting article 370Z vs BRZ comparo

cossie1600 · 05-03-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

But the Rx8 sucks up tthe same amount of gas as our cars. The BRZ may get mid-30's highway mpg. (Still rumor). Rx 8 is also pretty dated now to me as far as style.

Fair points, but it is also 10k cheaper! Car is just overrated.

k20z3 · 05-03-2012, 02:27 AM

I still am on the fence about the FT-86/BRZ concept..... I wish it were AWD they look okay in person.

Kamus · 05-03-2012, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by k20z3

I still am on the fence about the FT-86/BRZ concept..... I wish it were AWD they look okay in person.

AWD would defeat the purpose of this car, besides. there's already a car like that at that price point, the WRX.

Mt Tam I am · 05-03-2012, 10:41 AM

The NSX comparison was beyond the pale. A twenty year old NSX is still worth more than a new BRZ. Still the BRZ sounds like a great deal for another. I am settled.

kenchan · 05-03-2012, 10:48 AM

i want them to compare the brz vs the high performance(?) sentra.

Somberlaine · 05-03-2012, 12:03 PM

when i saw the headline, my first thought was what a weird comparison.

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-03-2012, 01:22 PM

After seeing the specs and pricing I'd rather get a used Lotus Elise.

lemon-fresh · 05-03-2012, 02:06 PM

Really seems like the author had his mind made up before he even did the comparison.

Pauly · 05-07-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh

Really seems like the author had his mind made up before he even did the comparison.

exactly. i could never write a comparo for this reason. people with biased opinions cannot make fair comparisons

either way, Z > other crappy stuff

:-p

Mergnthwirker · 05-03-2012, 03:39 PM

I didn't think it was such a bad comparison. After all, on public roads it is much more about the subjective experience than who can spank whom.

There's certainly a whole lot to be said for an extremely low center of gravity. I still miss my RX-8's handling compared to the Z. And once I had a Porsche 914-6 which was spectacularly good on the track at Lime Rock. I suspect that the biggest advantage the BRZ offers is the flat-4 being so low in the chassis.

Of course, our cars will spank it in a straight line, plus the tires on the BRZ are not very sticky (Prius tires!), so we should be able to outcorner it too. Yet the subjective experience -- like that of the Miata -- could be a whole lotta fun.

Around here on winding Connecticut back roads, it is often hard to get above 30-40mph. At these speeds the Miata & the BRZ have a huge advantage over the Z and the Corvette, which are a much better experience at higher speeds than either of the small-engine cars. But at low speeds, Miata's & BRZ's are just a lot of fun! Furthermore, I'm glad to see another sports car in the market. Competition reaffirms to Nissan that this kind of car is important and will help the corporate bean-counters justify future versions of the Z for the faithful.

My $.02

r1eater · 05-03-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker

I didn't think it was such a bad comparison. After all, on public roads it is much more about the subjective experience than who can spank whom.

There's certainly a whole lot to be said for an extremely low center of gravity. I still miss my RX-8's handling compared to the Z. And once I had a Porsche 914-6 which was spectacularly good on the track at Lime Rock. I suspect that the biggest advantage the BRZ offers is the flat-4 being so low in the chassis.

Of course, our cars will spank it in a straight line, plus the tires on the BRZ are not very sticky (Prius tires!), so we should be able to outcorner it too. Yet the subjective experience -- like that of the Miata -- could be a whole lotta fun.

Around here on winding Connecticut back roads, it is often hard to get above 30-40mph. At these speeds the Miata & the BRZ have a huge advantage over the Z and the Corvette, which are a much better experience at higher speeds than either of the small-engine cars. But at low speeds, Miata's & BRZ's are just a lot of fun! Furthermore, I'm glad to see another sports car in the market. Competition reaffirms to Nissan that this kind of car is important and will help the corporate bean-counters justify future versions of the Z for the faithful.

My $.02

Very good input, reminds me of when I used to have a honda hawk GT, that little bike had all of 35 or 40 hp but in the twisties I would smoke the R1's which at that time were king of all bikes. I could just pin the throttle and scoot along through most turns, in the straights the other bigger bikes would smoke me. But I still had a blast on that small bike.

EDIT:

I added some videos to my OP

cossie1600 · 05-05-2012, 01:20 AM

The RX-8 is easier to drive and it is better at transition, but it is hardly a faster car than the Z. I had two...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker

I didn't think it was such a bad comparison. After all, on public roads it is much more about the subjective experience than who can spank whom.

There's certainly a whole lot to be said for an extremely low center of gravity. I still miss my RX-8's handling compared to the Z. And once I had a Porsche 914-6 which was spectacularly good on the track at Lime Rock. I suspect that the biggest advantage the BRZ offers is the flat-4 being so low in the chassis.

Of course, our cars will spank it in a straight line, plus the tires on the BRZ are not very sticky (Prius tires!), so we should be able to outcorner it too. Yet the subjective experience -- like that of the Miata -- could be a whole lotta fun.

Around here on winding Connecticut back roads, it is often hard to get above 30-40mph. At these speeds the Miata & the BRZ have a huge advantage over the Z and the Corvette, which are a much better experience at higher speeds than either of the small-engine cars. But at low speeds, Miata's & BRZ's are just a lot of fun! Furthermore, I'm glad to see another sports car in the market. Competition reaffirms to Nissan that this kind of car is important and will help the corporate bean-counters justify future versions of the Z for the faithful.

My $.02

hadokenuh · 05-04-2012, 12:34 AM

I am not sure. The car needs another 50hp imo. 200hp and 6s+ 0-60 these days, not so attractive for a sport car. Honda did that years ago - RSX-S although it's a FWD, it still handles well.

On the plus side, the BRZ looks good, light, and RWD. I'd probably go with the Subaru version if I were to buy one of these.

LakeShow · 05-04-2012, 02:58 AM

Why not just get a WRX?

r1eater · 05-04-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

Why not just get a WRX?

its not a RWD, 4dr, not as balanced as the BRZ.

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hadokenuh Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 186 Drives: 09 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 14	I am not sure. The car needs another 50hp imo. 200hp and 6s+ 0-60 these days, not so attractive for a sport car. Honda did that years ago - RSX-S although it's a FWD, it still handles well. On the plus side, the BRZ looks good, light, and RWD. I'd probably go with the Subaru version if I were to buy one of these.