Interesting article in Import Tuner- short ram

SE · 05-08-2010, 02:59 PM

There's an article in this month's Import Tuner that dynoed various intake setups- a short ram, cold-air, and a stock intake box were all tested on a 350Z.

The findings proved what we already know- short ram intakes actually lose power. But interestingly enough, it didn't touch upon the intake air temp but rather the venturi effect and MAF readings for the various intakes.

Scanned articles are below.

LateralG'z · 05-08-2010, 03:02 PM

interested to see this article

SE · 05-08-2010, 03:07 PM

SoCal 370Z · 05-08-2010, 03:12 PM

Is it me, or are the scans simply to small to read?

Zsteve · 05-08-2010, 03:17 PM

Goes to show you that smooth air flow is good, my last car had a screen to defuse the air as the MAF was close to the filters. Thats why when changing anything close to the MAF can be tricky.

SE · 05-08-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

Is it me, or are the scans simply to small to read?

Socal if anything your computer might be resizing the images automatically or your resolution is too small. I linked the full page scans so it might even be too large to fit on most screens. Try right clicking the images and clicking view image to see if you can still read it in a new window.

SoCal 370Z · 05-08-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by weeeee

Socal if anything your computer might be resizing the images automatically or your resolution is too small. I linked the full page scans so it might even be too large to fit on most screens. Try right clicking the images and clicking view image to see if you can still read it in a new window.

Just joking with you as they are humongous when seen in the thread; a right-click and separate window and matters are fine.

jnaut · 05-08-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

Is it me, or are the scans simply to small to read?

lol, i didn't notice anything

TBSS2008 · 05-08-2010, 04:50 PM

I just got done hacking up my Takeda SRI because they don’t add any performance, this article is right on. Just looks and sound from the SRI. So I just cut the Takeda Intake tubes to fit the stock box. I have two AFE Pro Dry S filters I plan on dropping in as soon as they are delivered. I have the Cobb AP the intake temps I was reading in traffic with the Takeda is just terrible, got it up to 178F when ambient was 91F.

Just did a test run with my hybrid CAI and all is well intake temps are 7-12 over ambient cruising. The Takeda SRI would run 20+ cruising.

Here is a shot of my Takeda Stock CAI Hybrid.

Zsteve · 05-08-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBSS2008

I just got done hacking up my Takeda SRI because they don’t add any performance, this article is right on. Just looks and sound from the SRI. So I just cut the Takeda Intake tubes to fit the stock box. I have two AFE Pro Dry S filters I plan on dropping in as soon as they are delivered. I have the Cobb AP the intake temps I was reading in traffic with the Takeda is just terrible, got it up to 178F when ambient was 91F.

Just did a test run with my hybrid CAI and all is well intake temps are 7-12 over ambient cruising. The Takeda SRI would run 20+ cruising.

Here is a shot of my Takeda Stock CAI Hybrid.

That looks good, +1 rep for the job. Nissan should make our intakes look like this with a better looking box too.

And once you have the high flow drop ins in you will get better throttle response and some hp.

Kastley85891 · 05-08-2010, 07:39 PM

Nice - like that

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBSS2008

I just got done hacking up my Takeda SRI because they don’t add any performance, this article is right on. Just looks and sound from the SRI. So I just cut the Takeda Intake tubes to fit the stock box. I have two AFE Pro Dry S filters I plan on dropping in as soon as they are delivered. I have the Cobb AP the intake temps I was reading in traffic with the Takeda is just terrible, got it up to 178F when ambient was 91F.

Just did a test run with my hybrid CAI and all is well intake temps are 7-12 over ambient cruising. The Takeda SRI would run 20+ cruising.

Here is a shot of my Takeda Stock CAI Hybrid.

TBSS2008 · 05-09-2010, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve

That looks good, +1 rep for the job. Nissan should make our intakes look like this with a better looking box too.

And once you have the high flow drop ins in you will get better throttle response and some hp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kastley85891

Nice - like that

Thanks guy’s glad it turned out ok. I still have the stock filters but since I have the aluminum intake pipe I still get a nice whoosh sound when revving the engine. I cant wait to see how it sounds with the drop ins!

Kastley85891 · 05-09-2010, 09:53 AM

Could always pull the boxes and do a ghetto drill mod to get more intake growl,
HKS do a resoably priced drop in dude, I ran them on my stockers with COBB post MAFS. ran good.

SE · 05-09-2010, 12:42 PM

The only problem with HKS drop-ins is for the price you could actually get the K&N and be able to clean it, whereas the HKS ones you keep having to replace as it gets dirty. I'm kind of on the fence for them also. I might consider the AEM units but I might wait to see what kind of proven power gains people are getting.

Kastley85891 · 05-09-2010, 12:54 PM

Got my drop ins for 70 bucks to my door, not soo bad - not sure on the expected life time on them, I do so little mileage it dosnt matter lol

05-08-2010, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	Interesting article in Import Tuner- short ram intake vs. stock vs. cold air There's an article in this month's Import Tuner that dynoed various intake setups- a short ram, cold-air, and a stock intake box were all tested on a 350Z. The findings proved what we already know- short ram intakes actually lose power. But interestingly enough, it didn't touch upon the intake air temp but rather the venturi effect and MAF readings for the various intakes. Scanned articles are below. Last edited by SE; 05-08-2010 at 03:10 PM.

05-08-2010, 03:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
LateralG'z Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 876 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 16	interested to see this article __________________ 2010 Mag Black, 6MT,

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SoCal 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US of A Posts: 2,842 Drives: Answers Rep Power: 33	Is it me, or are the scans simply to small to read? __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) Why I NEVER say NO to the Panda Lou Fusz!!!

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Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	Goes to show you that smooth air flow is good, my last car had a screen to defuse the air as the MAF was close to the filters. Thats why when changing anything close to the MAF can be tricky. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

05-09-2010, 09:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	Could always pull the boxes and do a ghetto drill mod to get more intake growl, HKS do a resoably priced drop in dude, I ran them on my stockers with COBB post MAFS. ran good. __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

05-08-2010, 03:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23

05-09-2010, 12:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	The only problem with HKS drop-ins is for the price you could actually get the K&N and be able to clean it, whereas the HKS ones you keep having to replace as it gets dirty. I'm kind of on the fence for them also. I might consider the AEM units but I might wait to see what kind of proven power gains people are getting. Last edited by SE; 05-09-2010 at 12:46 PM.

05-09-2010, 12:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	Got my drop ins for 70 bucks to my door, not soo bad - not sure on the expected life time on them, I do so little mileage it dosnt matter lol __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

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