Interesting Article on AOL Autos...

Jeffblue · 02-28-2010, 03:57 PM

Check The Manual (Transmission): Stick Shift Cars Going Away

He speaks the truth. i worry that in the future we'll have to pay a premium to have a MT in the car. at least nissan is helping to extend the life of MT cars instead of just turning their back on it.

Pharmacist · 02-28-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

Check The Manual (Transmission): Stick Shift Cars Going Away

He speaks the truth. i worry that in the future we'll have to pay a premium to have a MT in the car. at least nissan is helping to extend the life of MT cars instead of just turning their back on it.

manual transmissions have been dying for a while now. until recently they were restricted to 2 niches, high performance sports and super cars required them because they performed better than auto slushboxes. on the opposite end of the spectrum, they were also common on entry level economy cars because they were cheaper and more fuel efficient. modern technology has rendered both points moot. auto gearboxes now are just as cheap and efficient as manual boxes for economy cars. and modern double clutch automated gearboxes shift faster and better than any manual transmission, so they are now ubiquitous among supercars, most of which rarely come with a conventional manual anymore. ferrari for example doesn't even offer them anymore.

the only arguement left in favor of manual transmissions after the recent technological upgrades to automated transmissions, is the fun to drive factor. whether or not this alone will ensure enough strong demand to keep the manual gearbox alive we will find out in the next few years. like it or not, that is technology, and that is progress. that's how humanity moves forward. everything eventually gets replaced by something better, faster, more efficient, and more advanced. i'm sure half a century ago the addition of synchronizers and therefore single clutching shifts also made manual drivers feel the same about the lack of "fun" and the "dying art" of double clutching.

on the other hand, in 2010 some people still believe that a sports car with a solid rear axle is cool

So, maybe manual transmissions will not disappear completely. Heck, maybe the 2020 mustang will be the only car of its era with a manual transmission

at least i hope they would have gotten rid of the solid axle

Jeffblue · 02-28-2010, 05:06 PM

I see what you mean. I dont think anyone was complaining when power steering became common place.... that is except for, say, Huge McForearms.

6spd · 02-28-2010, 05:06 PM

Well said Pharmacist

Pharmacist · 02-28-2010, 05:24 PM

of course there is one good thing about that which is that most ppl, and by extension most car thieves cannot drive a manual transmission car. i always joke with my friends that my manual gearbox is an antitheft mechanism

kenchan · 02-28-2010, 05:42 PM

one of the many reasons why i got the Z was because it is a MT and it might be the last rear wheel drive (not all wheel drive) sports car that runs on gasoline (not hybrid).

Jeffblue · 02-28-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

one of the many reasons why i got the Z was because it is a MT and it might be the last rear wheel drive (not all wheel drive) sports car that runs on gasoline (not hybrid).

same here

6spd · 02-28-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

one of the many reasons why i got the Z was because it is a MT and it might be the last rear wheel drive (not all wheel drive) sports car that runs on gasoline (not hybrid).

yes yes and yes

fullmonty · 02-28-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

of course there is one good thing about that which is that most ppl, and by extension most car thieves cannot drive a manual transmission car. i always joke with my friends that my manual gearbox is an antitheft mechanism

You know what you're right though. Not that many people know how to drive stick, its why the US military stopped getting HUMVEEs and what not in stick shift

IDZRVIT · 02-28-2010, 07:44 PM

Manuals started dying out at least as far back as the '70's. Possibly in due part with the demise of muscle cars. My '76 vette in my avatar is an L-82 4-sp. A rare combination for a '76. The vast majority of vettes were sold with autos and that was America's only true sports car according to marketing hype.

kdoske · 02-28-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

Heck, maybe the 2020 mustang will be the only car of its era with a manual transmission

at least i hope they would have gotten rid of the solid axle

lol, Awesome! What is up with mustangs anyway? I know what you mean, everything about them seems a good 5+ years behind--even the new one that just came out.

Jeffblue · 02-28-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kdoske

lol, Awesome! What is up with mustangs anyway? I know what you mean, everything about them seems a good 5+ years behind--even the new one that just came out.

Yea agreed. This is a spy shot of the 2012

IDZRVIT · 02-28-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

Yea agreed. This is a spy shot of the 2012

Goes around turns like it's on rails!!!! Wait, it is on rails!!!!

The BlueMax · 02-28-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Manuals started dying out at least as far back as the '70's. Possibly in due part with the demise of muscle cars. My '76 vette in my avatar is an L-82 4-sp. A rare combination for a '76. The vast majority of vettes were sold with autos and that was America's only true sports car according to marketing hype.

Go back 3 years and the majority of 73 vettes were manual. Same with the 94-96 GTO most were 6speeds. The 4th gen F-bodies had such a demand for 6speeds that in Oct. of 94 when I ordered a Trans Am they said it would take 6 months to get it, so I went with the automatic it was boring so I sold it after 3 year lease and bought a 6speed WS6 T/A, much more car. Oh yea my 94 took 3 months to arrive, a couple order a 6 speed formula the exact same day, they didn't get their car till June.

LinPark · 02-28-2010, 10:50 PM

AT's are better than MT's? Next you'll be trying to convince me that CD's sound better than vinyl.

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	I see what you mean. I dont think anyone was complaining when power steering became common place.... that is except for, say, Huge McForearms.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	one of the many reasons why i got the Z was because it is a MT and it might be the last rear wheel drive (not all wheel drive) sports car that runs on gasoline (not hybrid).

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