Sh0velMan's Track Car Build

Sh0velMan · 02-01-2013, 09:51 AM

Mike, can you snap some detailed photos of your interior? I'd like to see it for comparison's sake.

It's hard to make the inside of mine look particularly neat and tidy, much less pretty, because everything contrasts so starkly with the damned yellow.

wstar · 02-01-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I do too. I just have my loose ends coiled and tucked away. I'm just afraid if I cut something off, there is going to be a wire that is looped in a circuit with something important that will be cut.

The approach I took was to work from the rear of the car forward, and identify everything I was messing with as I went, only cutting out the circuits I don't care about.

So basically, with the rear interior gone, I first went after the obvious rear targets I don't care about: the locker on the gas door, all of the lines to the hatch for everything but the top brake light (radio antenna, defroster), and all of the stereo equipment (sub, amp, XM radio module, etc that's all in the "center" of the car behind the seats).

I unplugged / cut out all of those at their terminal points, which are more or less at the end of their branches of the wiring looms, and/or are the whole terminal end of a branch of the wiring loom. Then I unwrapped the factory looms (lots of shrouding/conduit/tape around them), and pulled only those cut wires out of everything, working my way slowly forward on the car. Every few feet of progress, I'd go back and re-tape what was left of the loom (running to e.g. the taillight assemblies, the keyfob sensors that are still in the rear for now, etc).

I haven't finished mine, I stopped just behind the seats, where the main looms are in two giant bundles running down each side of the car on the outside. At that point it's a pretty thick bundle on each side, and the majority of it I've cut off at that point, as they all traced to stuff I didn't care about (they were the loose wires I've been following from the rear). The ones that remain still follow roughly their original bundles and paths. I taped up the cut-off ends behind the seats to ensure they didn't short against each other or the frame and left them there. To be completed when I start tearing out all the front interior and removing the dash

It's hours of brutal work, but IMHO it's worth it and it's not as risky as it seems.

Mike · 02-02-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Mike, can you snap some detailed photos of your interior? I'd like to see it for comparison's sake.

It's hard to make the inside of mine look particularly neat and tidy, much less pretty, because everything contrasts so starkly with the damned yellow.

sure, when I get home this week I'll do it.

Sh0velMan · 02-02-2013, 07:34 PM

Thanks man!

SPOHN · 02-02-2013, 10:44 PM

Cutting the harness is real simple. I'm sure you have seen my pics in my journal. I did my hole car all the way to the connecting points to the main bulk of the harness behind the dash. Only took me about 4 hours max. No issues at all.

Mr&Mrs · 02-03-2013, 11:44 AM

Nice build! Love the yellow Z's!

Sh0velMan · 02-06-2013, 07:42 AM

So cage builder broke his hand about 6 weeks ago, and his PT isn't going as well as hoped, so we're delaying the cage build until the first week of March.

This also means we'll have more time for the seat to come in.

In the meantime, I'm going next weekend to buy a new workbench, shelving, tool storage etc for my garage so that I can get some real work done on the thing.

Here's what I am thinking in the meantime:

1) HVAC Delete
2) Remove condenser from radiator
3) Custom NST 20% UD crank pulley
4) Catch cans so I'll stop having so much oil blow into the engine
5) Custom intake setup based off of the current Nismo system
6) Do something about the wiring
7) Wrap the headers finally (hopefully without having to remove them, looks like it might be doable with the front of the car taken apart)

wstar · 02-06-2013, 06:50 PM

1) HVAC - my only concern here is removing the heater core. Spohn went ahead and did it, but I've seen conflicting opinions on this in general for a racecar. It's kinda nice to have as a defroster option on some track days, esp. early AM or in weird weather. I'm so excited about ripping so many things out of my car too, though, that I'm likely to do it as well and hope that rain-x / fog-x and paper towels and rolled down windows suffice!

7) Wrapping the headers in-place sounds like a real bitch, even with the radiator, etc out of the way. Also, donno about PPE's coating/metal, but FI recommended against me wrapping mine. Said the wrap would trap condensation against the pipes, eventually drawing out nickel and/or causing corrosion, etc, and you'd just end up having to replace headers faster (this was comparing ceramic coat, uncoated/wrapped, coated/wrapped, and he recommended coated+unwrapped).

SPOHN · 02-06-2013, 07:23 PM

Two months now with no heater core. No issues yet with cold weather. But have not been in the rain. I've read noting but horror stories with anti fog solutions. But funny thing is on the BMW and Porsche forums those guys have been using shampoo on the inside of the windshield to stop fog. Apparently a old racer thing. Apply and wipe off.

Megan370z · 02-06-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Also, donno about PPE's coating/metal, but FI recommended against me wrapping mine. Said the wrap would trap condensation against the pipes, eventually drawing out nickel and/or causing corrosion, etc, and you'd just end up having to replace headers faster (this was comparing ceramic coat, uncoated/wrapped, coated/wrapped, and he recommended coated+unwrapped).

look at my PPE picture , they had the best coating offered by PPE almost 2 years ago.
They had the DEI titanium exhaust wrap on them since the installation.

this is the result of about 35 000km and about 1000kms of track

they arent too bad and still good for a few years
btw they are Stainless steel, the orange color seem to be the wrap deposit stuck on the pipe.

Sh0velMan · 02-07-2013, 10:17 AM

What do you guys suggest for disposing of my airbags I've pulled?

GaleForce · 02-07-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

What do you guys suggest for disposing of my airbags I've pulled?

Sell them, or... Apply voltage to them in a controlled environment. Be safe.

Sh0velMan · 02-07-2013, 11:02 AM

Just concerned about the legality of reselling them I guess.

GaleForce · 02-07-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Just concerned about the legality of reselling them I guess.

Oh, I wasn't away of any legal issues when selling them. I have seen them on eBay before.

GaleForce · 02-07-2013, 11:14 AM

After a quick google search I don't see anything that says you cannot sell a used airbag. I did read differing opinions on the handling and shipping of them, though. If you choose to sell them you might want to opt for a local sale.

02-01-2013, 09:51 AM	#91 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	Mike, can you snap some detailed photos of your interior? I'd like to see it for comparison's sake. It's hard to make the inside of mine look particularly neat and tidy, much less pretty, because everything contrasts so starkly with the damned yellow. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

02-02-2013, 07:34 PM	#94 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	Thanks man! __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

02-02-2013, 10:44 PM	#95 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Cutting the harness is real simple. I'm sure you have seen my pics in my journal. I did my hole car all the way to the connecting points to the main bulk of the harness behind the dash. Only took me about 4 hours max. No issues at all. __________________

02-03-2013, 11:44 AM	#96 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,192 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 15161	Nice build! Love the yellow Z's! Sh0velMan likes this. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

02-06-2013, 07:42 AM	#97 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	So cage builder broke his hand about 6 weeks ago, and his PT isn't going as well as hoped, so we're delaying the cage build until the first week of March. This also means we'll have more time for the seat to come in. In the meantime, I'm going next weekend to buy a new workbench, shelving, tool storage etc for my garage so that I can get some real work done on the thing. Here's what I am thinking in the meantime: 1) HVAC Delete 2) Remove condenser from radiator 3) Custom NST 20% UD crank pulley 4) Catch cans so I'll stop having so much oil blow into the engine 5) Custom intake setup based off of the current Nismo system 6) Do something about the wiring 7) Wrap the headers finally (hopefully without having to remove them, looks like it might be doable with the front of the car taken apart) __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

02-06-2013, 06:50 PM	#98 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	1) HVAC - my only concern here is removing the heater core. Spohn went ahead and did it, but I've seen conflicting opinions on this in general for a racecar. It's kinda nice to have as a defroster option on some track days, esp. early AM or in weird weather. I'm so excited about ripping so many things out of my car too, though, that I'm likely to do it as well and hope that rain-x / fog-x and paper towels and rolled down windows suffice! 7) Wrapping the headers in-place sounds like a real bitch, even with the radiator, etc out of the way. Also, donno about PPE's coating/metal, but FI recommended against me wrapping mine. Said the wrap would trap condensation against the pipes, eventually drawing out nickel and/or causing corrosion, etc, and you'd just end up having to replace headers faster (this was comparing ceramic coat, uncoated/wrapped, coated/wrapped, and he recommended coated+unwrapped). __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

02-06-2013, 07:23 PM	#99 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Two months now with no heater core. No issues yet with cold weather. But have not been in the rain. I've read noting but horror stories with anti fog solutions. But funny thing is on the BMW and Porsche forums those guys have been using shampoo on the inside of the windshield to stop fog. Apparently a old racer thing. Apply and wipe off. __________________

02-07-2013, 10:17 AM	#101 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	What do you guys suggest for disposing of my airbags I've pulled? __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

02-07-2013, 11:02 AM	#103 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	Just concerned about the legality of reselling them I guess. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

02-07-2013, 11:14 AM	#105 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51864	After a quick google search I don't see anything that says you cannot sell a used airbag. I did read differing opinions on the handling and shipping of them, though. If you choose to sell them you might want to opt for a local sale. __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

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