GT-R R35 Plenum Test Fitment on my VQ37HR

erkthejerk73 · 02-06-2012, 02:02 PM

use superglue and duct tape!

kidding this is cool props to you!

menzzer37 · 02-07-2012, 07:19 AM

Yeah... a 5-axis Mikron is around 500K... would make more sense to buy a few GTR's than a 5 axis for the manifold. What about doing an investment cast? Have a wax RP'd and slurried. This would most likely be more affordable. There has to be tons of foundries over there for manifolds. Keep up the good work and good luck!

ChrisUR · 02-08-2012, 06:23 AM

sorry for the delay guys, I was very busy with other projects during the days so here is the update:

as told it is a lot harder than I thought finding a company who is able and willing to produce the CNC parts for me for a reasonable price.

The idea of making a cast form is good, but first I need to finish at least the prototype so I can test fit and (more important) test drive the GT-R manifold with my adapter to check how it performs.

A cast has a big initial investement even though the mass production is a lot cheaper later on. But before I spend thousands for a form I need to verify if the design we came up with is accurate and if everything works good in the real world.

Test fitment could be done by a wax or PU form but not the test drive and dyno testing. And of course that is what everybody is looking for before I can take orders for the new manifold adapter. I hate the idea of selling something which hasnt prooven to be worth the money under real conditions. No offence against Motordyne, but obviously that is what they did because every article and thread I have read about their M370 talks that you loose power even with a proper tune and the gains in some rpm's are not really worth the effort - and I dont want to offer just another expensive part people are not happy with in overall.

But there may be light at the end of the tunnel, I spoke to a good friend at HWA (they build the SLS GT3 for 24h races and design parts for AMG) and he told me we might be able to lasersinter the complete lower intake manifold out of aluminum powder and this part can withstand at least 15psi and would be the same quality as the stock plastic cast 370Z intake plenum.

I'm currently evaluating what design changes have to be made in order to laserprint the manifold and what the price would be for a prototype.

Will keep you posted !

Chris

GaleForce · 02-08-2012, 08:16 AM

Sounds good, thanks for the update.

wstar · 02-08-2012, 09:57 AM

Awesome, keep it up

Megan370z · 02-09-2012, 05:33 AM

good job ! dont give up

cc370z · 02-09-2012, 07:51 AM

Thank you for all your time! And don't give up!

370Z JT · 03-11-2012, 01:44 PM

Any news?

Unique_Z · 03-11-2012, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT

Any news?

^^this

jezeka777 · 07-11-2012, 10:47 AM

Any update on this???

ChrisUR · 07-18-2012, 07:06 PM

sorry for being so quite for the last weeks - but after I found out that it may be harder to have something produced rather than research and develop I wanted to make sure there actually is some real news to share with you.

well, here is a first glance on the prototype currently in production. Will keep you posted as soon as we have completed the whole unit and going to test fit it on my Z !

Chris

37Z · 07-18-2012, 07:28 PM

I have a few inquiries:

Is the intake to be a two piece design?
Is the upper intake plenum to be attached to the stock throttle bodies in the stock location?
Is the intake plenum to have only two throttle bodies (i.e. stock set-up) or six individual throttle bodies?
Are the upper intake plenum tube lengths adjustable?
Have you consider fabricating the intake upper plenum from ceramic material. Porsche did this on the 944 turbo.

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KaienZ34 · 07-18-2012, 07:30 PM

binary0x01 · 07-18-2012, 10:54 PM

If this pans out I'm gonna buy it.

Over and out...

edub370 · 07-19-2012, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01

If this pans out EVERYONE'S gonna buy it.

Over and out...

ftfy

02-07-2012, 07:19 AM	#137 (permalink)
menzzer37 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 88 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 14	Yeah... a 5-axis Mikron is around 500K... would make more sense to buy a few GTR's than a 5 axis for the manifold. What about doing an investment cast? Have a wax RP'd and slurried. This would most likely be more affordable. There has to be tons of foundries over there for manifolds. Keep up the good work and good luck! Last edited by menzzer37; 02-07-2012 at 07:23 AM.

02-08-2012, 06:23 AM	#138 (permalink)
ChrisUR Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 116 Drives: 370Z Black Edition Rep Power: 14	sorry for the delay guys, I was very busy with other projects during the days so here is the update: as told it is a lot harder than I thought finding a company who is able and willing to produce the CNC parts for me for a reasonable price. The idea of making a cast form is good, but first I need to finish at least the prototype so I can test fit and (more important) test drive the GT-R manifold with my adapter to check how it performs. A cast has a big initial investement even though the mass production is a lot cheaper later on. But before I spend thousands for a form I need to verify if the design we came up with is accurate and if everything works good in the real world. Test fitment could be done by a wax or PU form but not the test drive and dyno testing. And of course that is what everybody is looking for before I can take orders for the new manifold adapter. I hate the idea of selling something which hasnt prooven to be worth the money under real conditions. No offence against Motordyne, but obviously that is what they did because every article and thread I have read about their M370 talks that you loose power even with a proper tune and the gains in some rpm's are not really worth the effort - and I dont want to offer just another expensive part people are not happy with in overall. But there may be light at the end of the tunnel, I spoke to a good friend at HWA (they build the SLS GT3 for 24h races and design parts for AMG) and he told me we might be able to lasersinter the complete lower intake manifold out of aluminum powder and this part can withstand at least 15psi and would be the same quality as the stock plastic cast 370Z intake plenum. I'm currently evaluating what design changes have to be made in order to laserprint the manifold and what the price would be for a prototype. Will keep you posted ! Chris __________________ ProStreet N1 exhaust \| ProStreet N1 Y-Pipe \| STILLEN G3 Intake \| NST Pulley Kit EIBACH Pro-Springs \| EIBACH Pro-Spacers \| EIBACH Sway Bars \| SEIBON GT2 Rear Wing MOCAL Oil Cooler 25row\| STILLEN TransCooler \| STILLEN PS Cooler \| STILLEN Front Fascia

02-08-2012, 08:16 AM	#139 (permalink)
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02-08-2012, 09:57 AM	#140 (permalink)
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02-09-2012, 05:33 AM	#141 (permalink)
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02-06-2012, 02:02 PM	#136 (permalink)
erkthejerk73 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: cincinnati Posts: 927 Drives: 13 F150 FX4 eb Rep Power: 15	use superglue and duct tape! kidding this is cool props to you!

02-09-2012, 07:51 AM	#142 (permalink)
cc370z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 467 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 15	Thank you for all your time! And don't give up!

03-11-2012, 01:44 PM	#143 (permalink)
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07-11-2012, 10:47 AM	#145 (permalink)
jezeka777 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: westbury ny Posts: 118 Drives: 2011 370z sport Rep Power: 13	Any update on this???

07-18-2012, 07:06 PM	#146 (permalink)
ChrisUR Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 116 Drives: 370Z Black Edition Rep Power: 14	sorry for being so quite for the last weeks - but after I found out that it may be harder to have something produced rather than research and develop I wanted to make sure there actually is some real news to share with you. well, here is a first glance on the prototype currently in production. Will keep you posted as soon as we have completed the whole unit and going to test fit it on my Z ! Chris __________________ ProStreet N1 exhaust \| ProStreet N1 Y-Pipe \| STILLEN G3 Intake \| NST Pulley Kit EIBACH Pro-Springs \| EIBACH Pro-Spacers \| EIBACH Sway Bars \| SEIBON GT2 Rear Wing MOCAL Oil Cooler 25row\| STILLEN TransCooler \| STILLEN PS Cooler \| STILLEN Front Fascia Last edited by ChrisUR; 07-18-2012 at 07:23 PM.

07-18-2012, 07:28 PM	#147 (permalink)
37Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 476 Drives: 370Z MB 6M -sold Rep Power: 262	Custom Intake for 370Z engine I have a few inquiries: Is the intake to be a two piece design? Is the upper intake plenum to be attached to the stock throttle bodies in the stock location? Is the intake plenum to have only two throttle bodies (i.e. stock set-up) or six individual throttle bodies? Are the upper intake plenum tube lengths adjustable? Have you consider fabricating the intake upper plenum from ceramic material. Porsche did this on the 944 turbo. [/LIST] Last edited by 37Z; 07-18-2012 at 07:35 PM.

07-18-2012, 07:30 PM	#148 (permalink)
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07-18-2012, 10:54 PM	#149 (permalink)
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