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I suppose this is a legitimate question, have any of you guys tried running the MAF's post turbo (on the turbo intakes / no pressure side) opposed to the intercooler

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Old 10-31-2014, 01:54 PM   #136 (permalink)
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I suppose this is a legitimate question, have any of you guys tried running the MAF's post turbo (on the turbo intakes / no pressure side) opposed to the intercooler charge piping? I know the part number on the R35 MAF and Z34 MAF is the same and if i recall correctly R35 guys are making about 750AWHP on 3" MAF housings and 850whp on 80mm housings. on a RWD platform that should translate to about 5% more whp.
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I suppose this is a legitimate question, have any of you guys tried running the MAF's post turbo (on the turbo intakes / no pressure side) opposed to the intercooler charge piping? I know the part number on the R35 MAF and Z34 MAF is the same and if i recall correctly R35 guys are making about 750AWHP on 3" MAF housings and 850whp on 80mm housings. on a RWD platform that should translate to about 5% more whp.
You're suggesting switching to a draw-through as opposed to blow-through? That's going to require the BOVs to be plumbed back in pre-turbo since otherwise they'd be venting metered air and you'd get a rich hiccup every time the BOV opens.
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You're suggesting switching to a draw-through as opposed to blow-through? That's going to require the BOVs to be plumbed back in pre-turbo since otherwise they'd be venting metered air and you'd get a rich hiccup every time the BOV opens.
It shouldn't because the Only time bovs are open is when you off the throttle. This is how my turbo talin is setup from the factory..time to get in the lab..and make something up
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It shouldn't because the Only time bovs are open is when you of the throttle. So no fuel till the cars about to hit idle. I mite try this
That's a well-documented problem that most draw-through maf-based cars (Isn't the Talon MAP-based?) face with a BOV vented to atmosphere. If you vent metered air, the computer doesn't know that the air is gone and you swing rich for a second between shifts or when you let off throttle. It just stumbles a bit in between shifts.

Plus, are we worried about the different air density between the air at the maf and the post-turbo, post-intercooler air? Isn't this one of the (many) problems with the maf pocation on the Stillen kit?
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No the talon runs the 3in gm maf with a after market atmosphere bov and it don't have any issue. I guess no one will know till they try it...I'm not to worried about cuz I'm at 10psi and still have a full volt left be4 it's at max but I would like to try just to see what happens
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But as I look the r35 maf's are in the same spot as ours. When I went to 3in and tall maf's it fixed all my problems. I think everybody just need bigger pipe
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But as I look the r35 maf's are in the same spot as ours. When I went to 3in and tall maf's it fixed all my problems. I think everybody just need bigger pipe
yeah except R35s have draw through, instead of blow through 1,

i would personally not run BOV's and just install some Turbosmart or Synapse bypass valves (plumb back)
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yeah except R35s have draw through, instead of blow through 1,

i would personally not run BOV's and just install some Turbosmart or Synapse bypass valves (plumb back)
ur right they are i just said there in the same spot....and BOV to Bypass is up to that person. me personlly have had to many turbosmart things fail on me to use them...
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yeah except R35s have draw through, instead of blow through 1,

i would personally not run BOV's and just install some Turbosmart or Synapse bypass valves (plumb back)
R35s also switch to speed density tuning under load. The MAFs are only used under low load because speed density tuning isnt accurate at low flow rates.

Also if you are only sucking through the mafs they will not be able to read as high as when you are blowing through them. I believe that was discussed earlier on in this thread with phunk.
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