Topgunz full supercharger kits!!

FPenvy · 09-26-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Being that he mentioned every other year and he lives in California it's got to be related to smogging the car for registration.

didnt see that. seems like a pretty solid reason to move out of the land of snowflakes

so many just ridiculous laws in cali, hence why i could never move there. love no cats on my cars and other mods

redondoaveb · 09-26-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

didnt see that. seems like a pretty solid reason to move out of the land of snowflakes

so many just ridiculous laws in cali, hence why i could never move there. love no cats on my cars and other mods

We do have the stupidist smog laws. As long as they don't look under the car during the test (and I've never had anyone do that), you can get away with not running cats

B&W_Evader · 09-27-2018, 08:48 AM

Yes, of course it has to do with CA. Smog. I haven't been able to get myself to pull the trigger on the Stillen kit because of the MAF sensor position. I think this is the best SC kit out there and I'm trying to decide what level of PITA I'll be living with. Pulled the engine and tranny out of my 69 Vette a couple of times. Not that big of a deal. Tranny linkage is what everyone's paranoid on that one but adjusting it is pretty easy. I can build it off line if I've got a spare engine and tranny. If I blow it up I still have the original to put back in. I'm guessing it would be about 12 hrs the first time could bring it down to 5 or 6 after that.

B&W_Evader · 09-27-2018, 08:52 AM

I think most Smog stations would pick up on the ATA kit but maybe you Cali guys who've done the upgrade can comment. Other option would be to pull the ATA and run no intercooler during smog, then put it back on for "normal" driving. That would mean rotating the SC each time or having a second.

redondoaveb · 09-27-2018, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

I think most Smog stations would pick up on the ATA kit but maybe you Cali guys who've done the upgrade can comment. Other option would be to pull the ATA and run no intercooler during smog, then put it back on for "normal" driving. That would mean rotating the SC each time or having a second.

I doubt that many smog stations even know what the Stillen kit is and wouldn't visually know what parts come with the kit. At least the one's I've been to in the past with my Eclipse only care about having the CARB sticker. As long as you have the CARB sticker and it's not showing any codes they have their *** covered legally.

ByThaBay · 09-27-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

Yes, of course it has to do with CA. Smog. I haven't been able to get myself to pull the trigger on the Stillen kit because of the MAF sensor position. I think this is the best SC kit out there and I'm trying to decide what level of PITA I'll be living with. Pulled the engine and tranny out of my 69 Vette a couple of times. Not that big of a deal. Tranny linkage is what everyone's paranoid on that one but adjusting it is pretty easy. I can build it off line if I've got a spare engine and tranny. If I blow it up I still have the original to put back in. I'm guessing it would be about 12 hrs the first time could bring it down to 5 or 6 after that.

I can tune both the a2w and the a2a on ecutek and guarantee that you will pass smog in CA and the car will pull hard and drive perfectly as a daily. I recently had a customer drive his a2w G37 to death valley this summer and he had zero issues, over 40k miles on the kit over the past 5 years, all hard miles full of redline pulls. With the a2a you would fail visual of course.

redondoaveb · 09-27-2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ByThaBay

I can tune both the a2w and the a2a on ecutek and guarantee that you will pass smog in CA and the car will pull hard and drive perfectly as a daily. I recently had a customer drive his a2w G37 to death valley this summer and he had zero issues, over 40k miles on the kit over the past 5 years, all hard miles full of redline pulls. With the a2a you would fail visual of course.

Can you tune on ecutek with with an eca-2 flex fuel sensor installed and pass smog?

ByThaBay · 09-27-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Can you tune on ecutek with with an eca-2 flex fuel sensor installed and pass smog?

No. To use the flex fuel sensor you would have to disable some evap codes and so the EVAP monitor would also be disabled. The EVAP monitor is required to be in either INCOMPLETE or COMPLETE state. N/A state indicates disabled codes and the vehicle will fail smog.

Aside from using a flex fuel sensor, there are other learning approaches that could be implemented using the ecutek custom programming language to determine ethanol content directly from combustion results, thus not requiring the need for a flex fuel sensor. There are multiple ways to handle flex fuel, each approach has its advantages/disadvantages.

redondoaveb · 09-27-2018, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ByThaBay

No. To use the flex fuel sensor you would have to disable some evap codes and so the EVAP monitor would also be disabled. The EVAP monitor is required to be in either INCOMPLETE or COMPLETE state. N/A state indicates disabled codes and the vehicle will fail smog.

Aside from using a flex fuel sensor, there are other learning approaches that could be implemented using the ecutek custom programming language to determine ethanol content directly from combustion results, thus not requiring the need for a flex fuel sensor. There are multiple ways to handle flex fuel, each approach has its advantages/disadvantages.

Yeah, that's my issue right now. My evap monitor shows incomplete. My car is a 2017 and my ecu doesn't have the same (RAM) capabilities as the older years. I wonder if flex fuel programming could be done through my ecu.

G3RSTY7 · 09-29-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

Yes, of course it has to do with CA. Smog. I haven't been able to get myself to pull the trigger on the Stillen kit because of the MAF sensor position. I think this is the best SC kit out there and I'm trying to decide what level of PITA I'll be living with. Pulled the engine and tranny out of my 69 Vette a couple of times. Not that big of a deal. Tranny linkage is what everyone's paranoid on that one but adjusting it is pretty easy. I can build it off line if I've got a spare engine and tranny. If I blow it up I still have the original to put back in. I'm guessing it would be about 12 hrs the first time could bring it down to 5 or 6 after that.

Yea 6-8 hours would be my best guess once you get used to it. You’ll get good at removing belt and blower, but manifold work and getting couplers on snug will be a pia. The guy who helped me (he’s on here somewhere) switched his out for emissions. He didn’t complain much about it but takes time. But it’s easy to do and avoid issues
But i’m about to be at the same crossroad with evap wire for flex fuel. Got ticketed for car too loud already i’m concerned they could have tipped me off for emissions suspecting modified exhaust. So that’s another fun step...

B&W_Evader · 10-01-2018, 09:28 AM

Been successful in sleeper mode so far. Will probably be keeping my Z quiet to avoid drawing unnecessary attention.

G3RSTY7 · 10-04-2018, 02:40 PM

Dynoday on the heartbreak dyno (any dyno in Colorado). 402 corrected, 337 actual @7.88psi of boost. I know I’d pick up another 1.5psi or so at sea level, not sure if that’s corrected in? Hoping for another 100 or so on e85. Emissions looked great so could probably throw a little more fuel, lmk what you think.
He also noticed my dirty filter from belt dust and said he’s seen people pick up 2lbs switching to a screenguard.

TopgunZ · 10-04-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by G3RSTY7

Dynoday on the heartbreak dyno (any dyno in Colorado). 402 corrected, 337 actual @7.88psi of boost. I know I’d pick up another 1.5psi or so at sea level, not sure if that’s corrected in? Hoping for another 100 or so on e85. Emissions looked great so could probably throw a little more fuel, lmk what you think.
He also noticed my dirty filter from belt dust and said he’s seen people pick up 2lbs switching to a screenguard.

I have a hard time believing this is elevation issues. I had mine there making 490whp on 10psi.

09-27-2018, 08:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 388	Yes, of course it has to do with CA. Smog. I haven't been able to get myself to pull the trigger on the Stillen kit because of the MAF sensor position. I think this is the best SC kit out there and I'm trying to decide what level of PITA I'll be living with. Pulled the engine and tranny out of my 69 Vette a couple of times. Not that big of a deal. Tranny linkage is what everyone's paranoid on that one but adjusting it is pretty easy. I can build it off line if I've got a spare engine and tranny. If I blow it up I still have the original to put back in. I'm guessing it would be about 12 hrs the first time could bring it down to 5 or 6 after that. __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\|

09-27-2018, 08:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 388	I think most Smog stations would pick up on the ATA kit but maybe you Cali guys who've done the upgrade can comment. Other option would be to pull the ATA and run no intercooler during smog, then put it back on for "normal" driving. That would mean rotating the SC each time or having a second. redondoaveb likes this. __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\|

10-01-2018, 09:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 388	Been successful in sleeper mode so far. Will probably be keeping my Z quiet to avoid drawing unnecessary attention. __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\|

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