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Originally Posted by Jayhovah thats a big *** exchanger. Yes... yes it is. I got to design it to give us the most cross sectional area for heat dissipation and

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Old 07-14-2017, 08:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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thats a big *** exchanger.
Yes... yes it is. I got to design it to give us the most cross sectional area for heat dissipation and with triple pass. Fluid stays in longer and with the pump it will perform like no other! They asked me to design it to run on multiple platforms and they are going to use it as an upgrade for the new VR30 platform meaning there will be a plug and play application for the Q and new Nissan Z.
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I like the way they integrated the pump. Nicely done!
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So after sitting here over the last two days reading 48 pages there seems to be more concern about the hood than anything else. People have to understand that when innovation comes around, things change. Compromises have to be made in order to ensure success of the product. Not meaning compromise of the product itself but of the initially designed product (the car) that wasn't built to take every single thing into account.

Also some people have to understand that not everyone here follows the popular kids on this forum. I've been part of this forum since 2010 and I still know only a handful of the big players here. If you're not directly linked to the vendor who is designing said product and someone questions who you are and asks to provide proof of expertise in the field, it would be wise to do so (something in the "about me" section of your profile) as it turns out said expert is helping in design and sales pitching. Reacting the way he did just potentially killed a $10,000+ sale, maybe more as other people could see it and think negatively on his association as well.

From what little I can see (thanks photo bucket) it sounds to be a promising endeavor by this company. Scrolling through what I can see in face book (no account), I'm not seeing much there either. I think an update on the project (lots of pictures) will solidify the reality of this project, put them on the first post of this thread as well to increase interest for people who are just now reading about it and can get a better picture in their head as they're reading through this book.

Lastly, some years ago I inquired about a positive displacement SC possibility for the 370Z on this forum and I was met with nearly 100% opposition that it would be impossible due to the VVEL system. Which made no sense to me at all because there are plenty of other PDSC vehicles with variable timing that are out on the road. Where is this opposition now? I don't recall one single post on this thread saying anything remotely close to what I received.
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Well....the kit is a great thing.....but no way you cant just dismiss the hood deal...
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There have been a good amount of pictures and the ones i've seen, seem to work just fine. I think they have been plenty good with keeping the community informed and updated i know they were close with the z days in May and had to push it back to make sure this kit is 100%. Me personally I would rather them take their time and deliver a solid product just as FI has. They had to squeeze every drop of space out of this kit and if the hood is the only downside for a change because of this, im sure people will be understanding. Just have a little faith in them. they make kick *** products and im sure will deliver on this as well, great things come to those who wait
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The hood mockups I've seen don't seem to take into account that the clearance problem of the Whipple s/c (as I understand it) is mostly in the front section of the hood -- not the topside so much or the back of the hood. Repositioning (or eliminating entirely) the cross-support bar will be an issue as well.

I think a lot of folks are following this thread just out of academic interest to see where it goes, and what it does on a dyno, but as far as making all the concessions necessary to actually make it fit their own car, very few will bite if the hood can't accommodate it tastefully.

Just my two cents...
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The hood mockups I've seen don't seem to take into account that the clearance problem of the Whipple s/c (as I understand it) is mostly in the front section of the hood -- not the topside so much or the back of the hood. Repositioning (or eliminating entirely) the cross-support bar will be an issue as well.

I think a lot of folks are following this thread just out of academic interest to see where it goes, and what it does on a dyno, but as far as making all the concessions necessary to actually make it fit their own car, very few will bite if the hood can't accommodate it tastefully.

Just my two cents...
Or people can stop being a bunch of pansies and just cut their hood or have a fabrication shop fab a hood for them which is honestly not that big of a deal. People spend thousands on exhaust systems cf hoods and body panels as it is already.
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Or people can stop being a bunch of pansies and just cut their hood or have a fabrication shop fab a hood for them which is honestly not that big of a deal. People spend thousands on exhaust systems cf hoods and body panels as it is already.
I posted something to this effect on page 30.
People would spend hundreds on non-functional ill-fitting body panels to get them to line up only decently. But when it comes to putting a tapered hood to cover a functional mod that puts them into a different power bracket they go "oh-hell naw that's crazy, no deal."

Keep up the good work RJ MFG, keep giving the VHR platform more support.
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Or people can stop being a bunch of pansies and just cut their hood or have a fabrication shop fab a hood for them which is honestly not that big of a deal. People spend thousands on exhaust systems cf hoods and body panels as it is already.
Some reasons could be due to the fact that where they live (like me being stationed in Germany, for instance) it's illegal to run around with a cut hood and a blower sticking out of it. I can imagine some states being the same. Another reason (let me use Germany again) is that body work is ridiculously expensive here. That doesn't include being able to find a competent body shop that is willing and able to do the work. In the states, maybe not so much but not all of us live there. I could go on about this all day but I'll stop with this: it's a big pill to swallow to say you'll have a plug-and-play kit for $10K but then have to add another $xxK amount on top of it just so your car isn't looking mangled from the conversion. Some people such as yourself might not care, and the same could be said for me depending on what needed to be cut and how it'd look afterwards. But, not everyone is going to think the same or legally be able to do it headache free. It doesn't make anyone a "pansy' for not wanting to cut their hood... just saying.
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Some reasons could be due to the fact that where they live (like me being stationed in Germany, for instance) it's illegal to run around with a cut hood and a blower sticking out of it. I can imagine some states being the same. Another reason (let me use Germany again) is that body work is ridiculously expensive here. That doesn't include being able to find a competent body shop that is willing and able to do the work. In the states, maybe not so much but not all of us live there. I could go on about this all day but I'll stop with this: it's a big pill to swallow to say you'll have a plug-and-play kit for $10K but then have to add another $xxK amount on top of it just so your car isn't looking mangled from the conversion. Some people such as yourself might not care, and the same could be said for me depending on what needed to be cut and how it'd look afterwards. But, not everyone is going to think the same or legally be able to do it headache free. It doesn't make anyone a "pansy' for not wanting to cut their hood... just saying.
There is really no such thing as plug an play when you go FI. People are kidding themselves if they don't think there will be cost for other supporting mods to get the FI system to work optimally. The will always be considerations to over come like yours depending on where you live and that is not the manufacturers fault. There are ton of car sold throughout the world by American car builders you can't get in the US. I guess I will have to move to Australia if I want a Ford Falcon!
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Some reasons could be due to the fact that where they live (like me being stationed in Germany, for instance) it's illegal to run around with a cut hood and a blower sticking out of it. I can imagine some states being the same. Another reason (let me use Germany again) is that body work is ridiculously expensive here. That doesn't include being able to find a competent body shop that is willing and able to do the work. In the states, maybe not so much but not all of us live there. I could go on about this all day but I'll stop with this: it's a big pill to swallow to say you'll have a plug-and-play kit for $10K but then have to add another $xxK amount on top of it just so your car isn't looking mangled from the conversion. Some people such as yourself might not care, and the same could be said for me depending on what needed to be cut and how it'd look afterwards. But, not everyone is going to think the same or legally be able to do it headache free. It doesn't make anyone a "pansy' for not wanting to cut their hood... just saying.
Being a part of the military I understand something like that. However that's a rare case, I'd recommend getting a twin turbo kit if you absolutely can not drive with a cut hood. But like hotrodz said there's nothing plug n play about forced induction. You're taking a platform and completely changing it from what it was designed to be.

What people need to understand is there's a reason a supercharger kit like this doesn't already exist. There's just physically no room for it under the hood. If you want a positive displacement supercharger then this is what you're going to have to deal with. There's no other way around it.
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Even though I won't be after this SC kit as I already bought a TT kit, I still waiting on the hood. Wouldn't mind a new hood
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Hypothetically this could be a big deal.


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