Nissan 370Z Forum  

Japan Announces 2035 ICE Ban - Long live the Z

10 or 20 years ago, I would be looking to see whats newer and better to replace my existing Z with eventually. https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-t...ef-11608887640 Now, a new reality is dawning, where

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions

Like Tree78Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-28-2020, 08:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 111
Drives: 20 Nissan 370Z PR M6
Rep Power: 6712
viiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond repute
Default Japan Announces 2035 ICE Ban - Long live the Z

10 or 20 years ago, I would be looking to see whats newer and better to replace my existing Z with eventually.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-t...ef-11608887640

Now, a new reality is dawning, where if you are serious about ICE sports cars, you will have to hoard them. You won't be trading in your 370Z for a 400Z because a 400Z alone will not last you for the rest of your life. I think around 2035, its looking there will be enough bans that it won't make producing these cars worthwhile for the few places that don't have a ban. I find it highly probable that a Biden administration would announce an ICE ban by 2040, effectively killing the global sports car market.

Instead, you need to start thinking now about what sports cars to buy in the next decade unless you will want to start paying inflated used pricing on out of production collectibles.

You will need to hold on to both your 370Z AND purchase a 400Z in order to hoard enough ICE sports cars to last you for the rest of your life.

My personal list of ICE sports cars to acquire (brand new) before 2035 end of production:

2020 370Z (acquired)
20xx 400Z
20xx C8 Corvette

This should be good to keep me happy till I die.
wanker and datcipher like this.

Last edited by viiv; 12-28-2020 at 09:09 AM.
viiv is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 09:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
old guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: S.E. Michigan
Age: 64
Posts: 2,328
Drives: 13 magma touring
Rep Power: 2684364
old guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

At some point the ruling elites will out law gasoline or make it very expensive / scarce, the ICE autos will become dust collectors / lawn ornaments.

I also see society shunning people with a ICE like they have the plague and refuse to let you in their parking lot or through their neighborhood
I can see it now, a sign at the entrance of a sub : NO ICE PERMITTED
__________________
I better walk before they make me run....
old guy is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 11:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
Sic Semper Tyrannis
 
Ghostvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Shawnee KS
Posts: 5,127
Drives: 15 Magma Red 6MT
Rep Power: 2684372
Ghostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond reputeGhostvette has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by old guy View Post
At some point the ruling elites will out law gasoline or make it very expensive / scarce, the ICE autos will become dust collectors / lawn ornaments.

I also see society shunning people with a ICE like they have the plague and refuse to let you in their parking lot or through their neighborhood
I can see it now, a sign at the entrance of a sub : NO ICE PERMITTED
We'll all be in 're-education' camps before that happens. Private ownership of houses, cars, etc will be outlawed, everything goes to the government. Your nice house will be confiscated for the ruling elite, you'll get a one room tarpaper shack down by the river....
__________________
2015 Magma Red 6MT Sport Tech/2012 Fairlady MB 6MT Base (RIP 08032018)https://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/370Z/Coupe/
Ghostvette is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 11:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 90
Drives: 2020 370Z 6M
Rep Power: 1034
dave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond reputedave11 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostvette View Post
We'll all be in 're-education' camps before that happens. Private ownership of houses, cars, etc will be outlawed, everything goes to the government. Your nice house will be confiscated for the ruling elite, you'll get a one room tarpaper shack down by the river....
That is why we have the 2nd Amendment.
So we can protect ourselves and our property.
dave11 is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 11:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
Now a Ronin Samurai
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 64
Posts: 29,248
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684422
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Angry

Quote:
Originally Posted by dave11 View Post
That is why we have the 2nd Amendment.
So we can protect ourselves and our property.
The left is trying to make that go bye bye.
__________________
Group C Driver, After Mods-334HP-279Tor. STD.|F.I. LTH|CBE/12" Resonators|Stillen Gen3|285/35-19, 345/30-19 Mich PSS on 9.5x19 and 12x19 ForgeLine Rims, Nismo RC Brake Ducts,|UpRev Tuned|http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 04:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Alberta
Posts: 33
Drives: altima coupe 3.5
Rep Power: 3356
datcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dave11 View Post
That is why we have the 2nd Amendment.
So we can protect ourselves and our property.
Unfortunately....it doesn't work that way. They won't be coming with guns to get you (except in rare nut cases).... and their guns are bigger anyways.....they'll be coming through pop culture, through the mainstream media, through Leftist academia.... you're not going to be shot out of existence....you'll be phased out...
datcipher is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 04:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Alberta
Posts: 33
Drives: altima coupe 3.5
Rep Power: 3356
datcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond reputedatcipher has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I don't know if Americans got it, but up here in Canada Lexus had a commercial a few years ago with the ominous ending line "enjoy driving while you still can". ICE ban and self-driving will ultimately culminate - if some have their way - in no human driving. Ah....the "utopian" vision....just get in your car, tell is where you want to go - and if permissible - it takes you there, all while central command logs and monitors every second of it.

Last edited by datcipher; 12-28-2020 at 04:24 PM.
datcipher is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 04:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
Elite Member
 
cooltoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 13,500
Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT
Rep Power: 152959
cooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I don't think its the end of the sports car. There are plenty, fast, electric cars.
FL 4Motion and Chuck33079 like this.
__________________

Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.
cooltoy is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 04:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
Now a Ronin Samurai
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 64
Posts: 29,248
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684422
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Unhappy

Quote:
Originally Posted by datcipher View Post
I don't know if Americans got it, but up here in Canada Lexus had a commercial a few years ago with the ominous ending line "enjoy driving while you still can". ICE ban and self-driving will ultimately culminate - if some have their way - in no human driving. Ah....the "utopian" vision....just get in your car, tell is where you want to go - and if permissible - it takes you there, all while central command logs and monitors every second of it.
The book "1984" come to mind?
UNKNOWN_370 likes this.
__________________
Group C Driver, After Mods-334HP-279Tor. STD.|F.I. LTH|CBE/12" Resonators|Stillen Gen3|285/35-19, 345/30-19 Mich PSS on 9.5x19 and 12x19 ForgeLine Rims, Nismo RC Brake Ducts,|UpRev Tuned|http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 06:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
God-Speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Austin, Tx.
Posts: 3,327
Drives: Prototype
Rep Power: 2368824
God-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond reputeGod-Speed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Rusty, jchammond and old guy like this.
God-Speed is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 06:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Zyonara91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: GTA
Posts: 331
Drives: 2010-Red-6spd-S/T
Rep Power: 12061
Zyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond reputeZyonara91 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cooltoy View Post
I don't think its the end of the sports car. There are plenty, fast, electric cars.
They may be fast but they don't have "soul". The ICE has all these working parts that make science sexy and beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmZ1dof3Qw
__________________
2FT3PDLZ
Zyonara91 is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 07:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
old guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: S.E. Michigan
Age: 64
Posts: 2,328
Drives: 13 magma touring
Rep Power: 2684364
old guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond reputeold guy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by datcipher View Post
Unfortunately....it doesn't work that way. They won't be coming with guns to get you (except in rare nut cases).... and their guns are bigger anyways.....they'll be coming through pop culture, through the mainstream media, through Leftist academia.... you're not going to be shot out of existence....you'll be phased out...


I believe phased out is correct. After you die all of your possessions will become state property and not be passed on to your beneficiaries and a couple of generations later, total state control
Rusty and Ghostvette like this.
__________________
I better walk before they make me run....
old guy is offline  
Old 12-28-2020, 11:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
Elite Member
 
cooltoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 13,500
Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT
Rep Power: 152959
cooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyonara91 View Post
They may be fast but they don't have "soul". The ICE has all these working parts that make science sexy and beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmZ1dof3Qw

I am not about to disagree with that, but saying that it is the end of the sports car is too extreme. They are just going to be different and yes soulsless, but still fun to drive.
FL 4Motion likes this.
__________________

Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.
cooltoy is offline  
Old 12-29-2020, 12:05 AM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 111
Drives: 20 Nissan 370Z PR M6
Rep Power: 6712
viiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond reputeviiv has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cooltoy View Post
I am not about to disagree with that, but saying that it is the end of the sports car is too extreme. They are just going to be different and yes soulsless, but still fun to drive.
I've rented a Tesla on Turo. It's faster than my Z. While I am not saying it is a sports car, without the sound and vibration....it gets old and yawn inducing real quick.

I still have approx 50-60 years based on average male life expectancy. I need to make bank the next decade to hoard up at least three gasoline sports cars to last me till I die.

Last edited by viiv; 12-29-2020 at 12:08 AM.
viiv is offline  
Old 12-29-2020, 09:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
ZeeingAround's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,234
Drives: 2013 NVP_2009 370Z
Rep Power: 19625
ZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond reputeZeeingAround has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
The book "1984" come to mind?
More like Mein Kampf but with Klaus Schwab instead. Prince Charles is full on for the Agenda 21 / reset as well. These people are not your friends.
Rusty, Ghostvette and old guy like this.
__________________
If I had a dollar for every gender, I would have two bucks and crap ton of counterfeits.
ZeeingAround is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Well I am out. Thanks everyone! Long live Z Debiandog Nissan 370Z General Discussions 16 08-28-2018 12:34 PM
WEDS Japan and Super Star Japan --- Summer Super Sales **** Lowest Price Ever **** RavSpec Tires/Wheels 4 08-26-2015 11:43 PM
Japan Chari-Tee: Donations directly to Japan KamiSpeed Kami Speed 3 04-20-2011 12:07 PM
Japan Chari-Tee: Donations Go Directly to Japan KamiSpeed Automotive Clothing and Apparel 14 03-25-2011 05:41 PM
Nissan Announces Inexpensive Nav (probably not for the Z though) G Fo12ce Audio & Video 11 12-02-2009 07:01 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2