Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

MightyBobo · 12-29-2009, 09:54 AM

Oh, I know Magazines will always test OEM hardware. But anyone in their right mind going out to do an HPDE (Weatherman in particular) should invest some money in a good brake pad setup, too. Thats just dumb to think you'll do fine on a track with a 100% stock car.

Zeto · 12-29-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Thats just dumb to think you'll do fine on a track with a 100% stock car.

I have to disagree, I took my stock S2000 to the track and it performed great. Like anything it could improve in certain areas, but for the most part it was a great experience.

Mag350Z · 12-29-2009, 01:29 PM

I think for $30000 the 370 is an amazing car right out of the box. The Nismo 370Z however, is marketed as "race proven" on Nissan's own website.
To me, race proven should mean that a car can run a few laps without overheating or losing its braking ability.
While the regular 370Z is probably fine for 99% of street use, the Nismo "race proven" 370 should have an oil cooler and upgraded brakes from the factory.
If this were to add 1 or 2 thousand dollars to the price I think most Nismo buyers probably would accept this as reasonable.

vipor · 12-29-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mag350Z

I think for $30000 the 370 is an amazing car right out of the box. The Nismo 370Z however, is marketed as "race proven" on Nissan's own website.
To me, race proven should mean that a car can run a few laps without overheating or losing its braking ability.
While the regular 370Z is probably fine for 99% of street use, the Nismo "race proven" 370 should have an oil cooler and upgraded brakes from the factory.
If this were to add 1 or 2 thousand dollars to the price I think most Nismo buyers probably would accept this as reasonable.

the brakes were supposed to be "Brembo-equivalent" and if all they are lacking is pads then okay.

an oil cooler just seems way too obvious to be looked over, but i'll be getting my own also

MightyBobo · 12-29-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto

I have to disagree, I took my stock S2000 to the track and it performed great. Like anything it could improve in certain areas, but for the most part it was a great experience.

Maybe I should rephrase that as, "EVERY 100% stock car" - not all cars are made equal.

Technik330 · 12-29-2009, 06:36 PM

Whether this was a driver error, mechanical problem, or some combination of the two; Nissan should be taking notes.

When the new M3 was released for "magazine/press testing" the E92 M3 was pre-fitted with "track pads," specifically because BMW already knew the car would be driven hard around a track, consistently. Watch the Top Gear video, they note this specifically. Logically, it'd seem like common sense to equip a magazine test car with better pads; especially if you already know the car will be tested repeatidly on the track, not the street.

I'm curious to know why the Nismo doesn't have brakes unique to the Nismo. That aside, if the brakes aren't really adequate for track use, fine, but why make the Nismo out to be born from racing heritage and knowledge... only to give it a "Brembo-like" braking, but not really?

The Oil Temp debate is sad: spend $40k on a 370z then go home and spend $800 more for an oil cooler....cool story-

370Zsteve · 12-29-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Technik330

Whether this was a driver error, mechanical problem, or some combination of the two; Nissan should be taking notes.

When the new M3 was released for "magazine/press testing" the E92 M3 was pre-fitted with "track pads," specifically because BMW already knew the car would be driven hard around a track, consistently. Watch the Top Gear video, they note this specifically. Logically, it'd seem like common sense to equip a magazine test car with better pads; especially if you already know the car will be tested repeatidly on the track, not the street.

I'm curious to know why the Nismo doesn't have brakes unique to the Nismo. That aside, if the brakes aren't really adequate for track use, fine, but why make the Nismo out to be born from racing heritage and knowledge... only to give it a "Brembo-like" braking, but not really?

The Oil Temp debate is sad: spend $40k on a 370z then go home and spend $800 more for an oil cooler....cool story-

Exactly. This is what I'm saying. Nisssan Marketing Dept appears to be run by complete morons WTF?

370Zsteve · 12-29-2009, 06:53 PM

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Mag350Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 95 Drives: 2011 GS Corvette Rep Power: 17	I think for $30000 the 370 is an amazing car right out of the box. The Nismo 370Z however, is marketed as "race proven" on Nissan's own website. To me, race proven should mean that a car can run a few laps without overheating or losing its braking ability. While the regular 370Z is probably fine for 99% of street use, the Nismo "race proven" 370 should have an oil cooler and upgraded brakes from the factory. If this were to add 1 or 2 thousand dollars to the price I think most Nismo buyers probably would accept this as reasonable.

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Technik330 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 53 Drives: 05' BMW 330Ci ZHP Rep Power: 17	Whether this was a driver error, mechanical problem, or some combination of the two; Nissan should be taking notes. When the new M3 was released for "magazine/press testing" the E92 M3 was pre-fitted with "track pads," specifically because BMW already knew the car would be driven hard around a track, consistently. Watch the Top Gear video, they note this specifically. Logically, it'd seem like common sense to equip a magazine test car with better pads; especially if you already know the car will be tested repeatidly on the track, not the street. I'm curious to know why the Nismo doesn't have brakes unique to the Nismo. That aside, if the brakes aren't really adequate for track use, fine, but why make the Nismo out to be born from racing heritage and knowledge... only to give it a "Brembo-like" braking, but not really? The Oil Temp debate is sad: spend $40k on a 370z then go home and spend $800 more for an oil cooler....cool story-