Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

ricky bobby · 12-28-2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.

i have oil temp issues on the street and my rotors are purple

, never been on the track

pulpz · 12-28-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.

To me not a big deal to track prep my car. But I assumed the Sport Brakes would be track ready (the 370Z equivalent to the 350Z Track Brembos). I really assumed this would be the case, considering that Nissan didn't make any changes to the Sport Brake setup for the Nismo.

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

All well and good, but the 370Z was still the only car that had this problem. I'm just sayin'...every other car seems to have made it through to the end. (Just finished reading the entire article, came in the mail today)

I agree. Doesn't discredit the Z in my mind, but it is disappointing and embarrassing knowing the Nismo 370Z cant hang with a stock Mustang after a few laps on the track.

kannibul · 12-28-2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.

Agreed, and AFAIK, Porsche doesn't advertise their cars as track queens.

In terms of street use, it hangs with the big boys quite well.

370Zsteve · 12-29-2009, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.

Name one other car right down to the cheapest ones in the test that had a problem with brakes. Did any of them have the word "track"? Were they viewed as track ready? What is your point?

theDreamer · 12-29-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Name one other car right down to the cheapest ones in the test that had a problem with brakes. Did any of them have the word "track"? Were they viewed as track ready? What is your point?

Do any of the have the power the Z has, which requires it to stop from a higher MPH?
I am not saying either is to blame, but Nissan has done everything fine in advertising this car (370z). The magazines, public view, etc. have put it on the track because the Z comes from a heritage of being a track oriented car, but this is a street car first. Nothing wrong with that, but when it comes down to it there are going to be sacrifices.

MightyBobo · 12-28-2009, 07:05 PM

That sub-30K price point was what was wrong with them lol.

phantom21 · 12-29-2009, 06:04 AM

Who cares about the crashed Nismo

HOW DID YOU GET YOUR FEBRUARY C&D IN DECEMBER????

Mag350Z · 12-29-2009, 07:53 AM

i don't know, i was wondering the same thing when it arrived!

pulpz · 12-29-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by phantom21

Who cares about the crashed Nismo

HOW DID YOU GET YOUR FEBRUARY C&D IN DECEMBER????

Dunno.....but Road & Track, Motor Trend, and Automobile all show up in my mailbox on the exact same day!

370Zsteve · 12-29-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by phantom21

Who cares about the crashed Nismo

HOW DID YOU GET YOUR FEBRUARY C&D IN DECEMBER????

Feb issue always comes end of December. Most magazines are that way.

vipor · 12-29-2009, 08:11 AM

lol might be a combo jan/feb issue? iono

MightyBobo · 12-29-2009, 09:54 AM

Oh, I know Magazines will always test OEM hardware. But anyone in their right mind going out to do an HPDE (Weatherman in particular) should invest some money in a good brake pad setup, too. Thats just dumb to think you'll do fine on a track with a 100% stock car.

Zeto · 12-29-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Thats just dumb to think you'll do fine on a track with a 100% stock car.

I have to disagree, I took my stock S2000 to the track and it performed great. Like anything it could improve in certain areas, but for the most part it was a great experience.

Mag350Z · 12-29-2009, 01:29 PM

I think for $30000 the 370 is an amazing car right out of the box. The Nismo 370Z however, is marketed as "race proven" on Nissan's own website.
To me, race proven should mean that a car can run a few laps without overheating or losing its braking ability.
While the regular 370Z is probably fine for 99% of street use, the Nismo "race proven" 370 should have an oil cooler and upgraded brakes from the factory.
If this were to add 1 or 2 thousand dollars to the price I think most Nismo buyers probably would accept this as reasonable.

vipor · 12-29-2009, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mag350Z

I think for $30000 the 370 is an amazing car right out of the box. The Nismo 370Z however, is marketed as "race proven" on Nissan's own website.
To me, race proven should mean that a car can run a few laps without overheating or losing its braking ability.
While the regular 370Z is probably fine for 99% of street use, the Nismo "race proven" 370 should have an oil cooler and upgraded brakes from the factory.
If this were to add 1 or 2 thousand dollars to the price I think most Nismo buyers probably would accept this as reasonable.

the brakes were supposed to be "Brembo-equivalent" and if all they are lacking is pads then okay.

an oil cooler just seems way too obvious to be looked over, but i'll be getting my own also

12-28-2009, 07:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
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12-29-2009, 09:54 AM	#12 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 54	Oh, I know Magazines will always test OEM hardware. But anyone in their right mind going out to do an HPDE (Weatherman in particular) should invest some money in a good brake pad setup, too. Thats just dumb to think you'll do fine on a track with a 100% stock car. __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

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Mag350Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 95 Drives: 2011 GS Corvette Rep Power: 17	I think for $30000 the 370 is an amazing car right out of the box. The Nismo 370Z however, is marketed as "race proven" on Nissan's own website. To me, race proven should mean that a car can run a few laps without overheating or losing its braking ability. While the regular 370Z is probably fine for 99% of street use, the Nismo "race proven" 370 should have an oil cooler and upgraded brakes from the factory. If this were to add 1 or 2 thousand dollars to the price I think most Nismo buyers probably would accept this as reasonable.