Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

Sharif@Forged · 12-28-2009, 03:14 PM

PM's sent guys. You guys are funny. Ryan is adding the items to the website right now, but just call in if you'd like to order. Ryan, Decker, or Sandy can take the order.

vipor · 12-28-2009, 03:22 PM

i didn't get a PM about the pads/fluid

Sharif@Forged · 12-28-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

i didn't get a PM about the pads/fluid

Thanks for all the pm's guys.

Z370man · 12-28-2009, 06:17 PM

I just read the C&D article and after listening to you guys who have run on the track I am going to replace my pads with some higher rated track spec ones. I found this link on disassembly/re-assembly: http://http://blogs.insideline.com/r...ge-part-1.html

I too thought my Nismo had kickass brakes. I am just coming out of the brake-in period so I have not done any hard driving yet - good thing.

MightyBobo · 12-28-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Z370man

I just read the C&D article and after listening to you guys who have run on the track I am going to replace my pads with some higher rated track spec ones. I found this link on disassembly/re-assembly: http://http://blogs.insideline.com/r...ge-part-1.html

I too thought my Nismo had kickass brakes. I am just coming out of the brake-in period so I have not done any hard driving yet - good thing.

The 370Z, including the Nismo, are both great STREET cars. Yeah, rightfully so, people are annoyed it overheats so easily. But, brakes are an obvious upgrade that should be considered mandatory before any track event...street pads just cant hold up like track ones can...same goes for the fluid of course.

FWIW, this is what can happen when you try to use street pads on a track.

The pads actually lit on fire, caused the caliper piston to seize in the full-out position, and then melted around the calipers piston. The fire ended up melting and rupturing the brake line, causing him to lose all fluid. Luckily, all this didn't happen until right after he got off the track, or it would have been devastating.

370Zsteve · 12-28-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

The 370Z, including the Nismo, are both great STREET cars. Yeah, rightfully so, people are annoyed it overheats so easily. But, brakes are an obvious upgrade that should be considered mandatory before any track event...street pads just cant hold up like track ones can...same goes for the fluid of course.

FWIW, this is what can happen when you try to use street pads on a track.

The pads actually lit on fire, caused the caliper piston to seize in the full-out position, and then melted around the calipers piston. The fire ended up melting and rupturing the brake line, causing him to lose all fluid. Luckily, all this didn't happen until right after he got off the track, or it would have been devastating.

All well and good, but the 370Z was still the only car that had this problem. I'm just sayin'...every other car seems to have made it through to the end. (Just finished reading the entire article, came in the mail today)

TheWeatherman · 12-29-2009, 08:49 AM

This was a really big article in the past by Car and Driver. The car they had was the Infiniti FX50 which runs the same brakes as our Sport and Nismos. Same exact thing happened. They had a whole data chart with it as well. After about 5 stops from 100, the brakes gave up on the FX. Stopping distances went off the chart. I just signed up for 2 track events at Road America this upcoming year. I'm not too happy I have to buy all of this stuff in a car that was advertised as a sports car. I know, we've been here and done that already, but my brother's Jeep SRT8 is more track capable than my Z. It's kind of pathetic. BTW, I think Infiniti FX50 owners could go back to the dealership and get performance pads fitted for no charge. Nice, huh?

MightyBobo · 12-29-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman

I just signed up for 2 track events at Road America this upcoming year. I'm not too happy I have to buy all of this stuff in a car that was advertised as a sports car. I know, we've been here and done that already, but my brother's Jeep SRT8 is more track capable than my Z. It's kind of pathetic. BTW, I think Infiniti FX50 owners could go back to the dealership and get performance pads fitted for no charge. Nice, huh?

Seriously?

RCZ, are there seriously people who try to go out on OEM pads instead of just getting proper brake pads and doing a fluid swap like they should for SAFETY'S sake??? Its barely over $300 for a GOOD set of pads!

abakja1 · 12-29-2009, 03:58 PM

Caliper good, rotor good,. brake pad,..."NO GOOD!!"

Stopping requires friction and either the rotor or pad gotta go,..seems the pad is too soft for the rotor which should be eating away...Id get beefier pads before tracking the car and switch them out for daily driving...

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

All well and good, but the 370Z was still the only car that had this problem. I'm just sayin'...every other car seems to have made it through to the end. (Just finished reading the entire article, came in the mail today)

Equinox · 12-29-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by abakja1

Caliper good, rotor good,. brake pad,..."NO GOOD!!"

Stopping requires friction and either the rotor or pad gotta go,..seems the pad is too soft for the rotor which should be eating away...Id get beefier pads before tracking the car and switch them out for daily driving...

something like 28 lbs per rotor if memory serves

MightyBobo · 12-28-2009, 06:47 PM

I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if they make a claim like that and PUBLISH it, you'd think they'd be confident enough to back their story up. Ive seen them fail before, and they admitted fault...why be any different this time?

370Zsteve · 12-28-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if they make a claim like that and PUBLISH it, you'd think they'd be confident enough to back their story up. Ive seen them fail before, and they admitted fault...why be any different this time?

The whole thing just stinks. Someone in Nissan Mktg Dept needs hiz head to roll

nicknick · 12-28-2009, 07:02 PM

Nissan makes a sports car, the 370z, great car and compares it to the Cayman. Two problems though; the Zed overheats on the track and its brakes fail on the track whereas the Cayman does not overheat and its brakes hold up. nissan, WTF is wrong with you? For a little extra added to the purchase price, you could have eliminated all this unnecassary image affecting problems. Yes some heads in the Nissan line up should roll.

ricky bobby · 12-28-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

Nissan makes a sports car, the 370z, great car and compares it to the Cayman. Two problems though; the Zed overheats on the track and its brakes fail on the track whereas the Cayman does not overheat and its brakes hold up. nissan, WTF is wrong with you? For a little extra added to the purchase price, you could have eliminated all this unnecassary image affecting problems. Yes some heads in the Nissan line up should roll.

theDreamer · 12-28-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

The whole thing just stinks. Someone in Nissan Mktg Dept needs hiz head to roll

Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.

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Z370man Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Palm Beach FL Posts: 9 Drives: Nismo370Z 2009 #114 Rep Power: 18	I just read the C&D article and after listening to you guys who have run on the track I am going to replace my pads with some higher rated track spec ones. I found this link on disassembly/re-assembly: http://http://blogs.insideline.com/r...ge-part-1.html I too thought my Nismo had kickass brakes. I am just coming out of the brake-in period so I have not done any hard driving yet - good thing. Last edited by Z370man; 12-28-2009 at 06:20 PM.

12-28-2009, 06:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 54	I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if they make a claim like that and PUBLISH it, you'd think they'd be confident enough to back their story up. Ive seen them fail before, and they admitted fault...why be any different this time? __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

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12-29-2009, 08:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
TheWeatherman Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 265 Drives: 2009 370Z 6MTw/Sport Rep Power: 18	This was a really big article in the past by Car and Driver. The car they had was the Infiniti FX50 which runs the same brakes as our Sport and Nismos. Same exact thing happened. They had a whole data chart with it as well. After about 5 stops from 100, the brakes gave up on the FX. Stopping distances went off the chart. I just signed up for 2 track events at Road America this upcoming year. I'm not too happy I have to buy all of this stuff in a car that was advertised as a sports car. I know, we've been here and done that already, but my brother's Jeep SRT8 is more track capable than my Z. It's kind of pathetic. BTW, I think Infiniti FX50 owners could go back to the dealership and get performance pads fitted for no charge. Nice, huh?

12-28-2009, 07:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
nicknick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 438 Drives: Mazda mx5 2007 6sp m Rep Power: 18	Nissan makes a sports car, the 370z, great car and compares it to the Cayman. Two problems though; the Zed overheats on the track and its brakes fail on the track whereas the Cayman does not overheat and its brakes hold up. nissan, WTF is wrong with you? For a little extra added to the purchase price, you could have eliminated all this unnecassary image affecting problems. Yes some heads in the Nissan line up should roll.