Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

pulpz

C&D did. And so will the other magazines.

It's to be expected that brake fade will occur on stock hardware after a few laps (or even runs on, say -Tail of The Dragon etc.) , but again - my concern (and C&Ds) is that for the 370z exclusively the fade is almost non-existent and rapidly becomes failure.

I'm not saying one shouldn't have to expect to upgrade pads for serious track or mountain driving. but I am saying a dramatic failure like this that can suddenly create a very dangerous situation on OEM hardware has to be considered poor engineering.

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370Zsteve

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370Zsteve

From Car & Driver September Edition (is this even the same car?)

When the road starts turning and twisting, the steering wheel, while heavy in the hands, relays with precision what the Yokohama Advan Sports are doing.

From Car & Driver Feb 2010 Edition:

Even with enormous grip from its Yokohama Advan Sports, the Z feels uncomfortable and slightly disconnected when pressed.

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RCZ

Well, because everything else on the Z is MUCH better suited for the track than the everything else on those cars. The GTI is waaaay too soft both in chassis and transmission and then the Genesis...well...I would not feel safe in one of those on the track without MAJOR upgrades.

Well, I have done it twice. Its not really about the cost either. The first time I went out, I couldnt even run into that problem because the car would overheat before the brakes did (sad) and then the second time its when I experienced brake failure...twice. The first time it happened there was no real warning, I was coming down a long straight and braking for a hairpin and half way into braking it felt like someone put marbles under the tires and off I went. In the following sessions, I ran slower and tried putting less heat into the brakes. This time I did feel them slowly going away, more with each stop and then finally braking for the same corner (with lots of room this time) I gave them a nice stomp and there I went on the marbles again, but this time I had a lot of time to stop. Had to drive the car at 80% the rest of the day so I could enjoy my trackday and live to tell about it.

Its dumb to think you can do fine on the track with a 100% stock car that costs $35k. All the folks in porsches and z06's that I know do just fine on the stock tires and brakes. Some of you guys that get upset about brakes fading on the track, I think you are ridiculous...its a relatively inexpensive car and there HAVE to be compromises. Its not a race car, its a 30k street car. Be happy that everything else works as well as it does and if you are going to get on the track, then get some pads and an oil cooler. Its not that Nissan couldnt do it, its that they couldnt do it on that budget.

That sir is why Car and Driver is not a good source on information. About anything.

nicknick

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Its dumb to think you can do fine on the track with a 100% stock car that costs $35k. All the folks in porsches and z06's that I know do just fine on the stock tires and brakes. Some of you guys that get upset about brakes fading on the track, I think you are ridiculous...its a relatively inexpensive car and there HAVE to be compromises. Its not a race car, its a 30k street car. Be happy that everything else works as well as it does and if you are going to get on the track, then get some pads and an oil cooler. Its not that Nissan couldnt do it, its that they couldnt do it on that budget.



That sir is why Car and Driver is not a good source on information. About anything.[/QUOTE]

How many of you would have paid an extra 1G to not have these issues? 1G is a weeks pay for most of us, right? If you could not afford an extra 1G then should you really be owning such an "expensive" car?

ChrisSlicks

Actually the braking issue has little to do with price, it has to do with owners of previous models of Nissan/Infiniti products wining about brake dust. They went to a different composition to cure that but created a new problem of very low temperature handling. It's not the only car to have this issue, the new Audi A4 suffers a similar problem. Fortunately the solution is simple and cheap, buy $300 worth of pads.

370Zsteve

+1 rep

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RCZ

Umm I said inexpensive if your comment is directed at me....also I think I've spent a good bit over 1k in mods already

nicknick

Sorry I meant from the factory. I know (well at least me) that i would payan extra 1G to not haave these issues, i know this only applies to track but sometimes peole just like to know the performance is there without actuaally having/wanting to use it, if you know what i mean.

370Zsteve

Carve that in stone. Good points. But dammit mine cost $35K not $30K and it's Japanese and it should work perfectly just like a Lexus or a BMW or my wife's goddamn Benz SUV

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