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Originally Posted by molamann Please stay away from BSN products, their products are decent but they're extremely overpriced since people are buying it from all that marketing they do. As

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Old 05-10-2009, 03:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Please stay away from BSN products, their products are decent but they're extremely overpriced since people are buying it from all that marketing they do. As for basic supplements, I take:

Optimum nutrition Whey Protein (post-workout)
Optimum nutrition Casein Protein (morning and night, take it with some peanut butter or cottage cheese at night specifically)
Controlled Labs Green Mag Creatine
Controlled Labs Orange Triad Multivitamin
Controlled Labs Purple Wrath BCAA
I'm taking a break from preworkout supplements atm.

If you're concerned about mass, just take 2x the grams of protein equal to your weight in lbs. For example, if you're 200lbs now, you'll have to take at least 400g in protein. Make sure you're also eating sufficient amount calories, there's several calculators available online.
Please don't listen to the 2x your weight is the amount of protein you should take. The recommended minimum amount .8 g of protein per kilogram of weight. For athletic individuals anywhere between 1.2g-1.4g per kilograms. Exceeding more than 2g per kilogram will put a large amount of stress on your kidneys.

As far as stacks go, this is what I use:
Universal nutrition: Shock Therapy (Pre-workout)
Dark matter: (post workout)
Optimum nutrition gold standard whey protein
Optimum nutrition Procomplex weight gainer
Centrum multivitamins

I use this because I have an extremely active metabolism. I'm 6'3" and weigh 195 pounds. I have to use a weight gainer to provide enough calories through out the day. Like what others have said BSN is an expensive brand and overpriced. There are many alternatives out there.

The key is eating balanced and taking in protein through out the day. Protein synthesis happens during the day. Be sure you get plenty of rest, stay hydrated. If you're trying to cut down, eat lean foods (chicken breast, lean meats, fish) and cut down on the calories. You still need to maintain a balanced diet to ensure you are taking in adequate amounts of carbs, fats, and vitamins. Don't fall for trendy diets. A strict diet and exercise regiment is the best way to go. The results are reliable and the effects are long lasting.

On a reference note, I'm a biologist in the infant nutrition market. Nutrition is my specialty. Be really careful about information that you hear from "meatheads." A lot of methods that I over hear all the time are very dangerous for you body that can really screw you.
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Please don't listen to the 2x your weight is the amount of protein you should take. The recommended minimum amount .8 g of protein per kilogram of weight. For athletic individuals anywhere between 1.2g-1.4g per kilograms. Exceeding more than 2g per kilogram will put a large amount of stress on your kidneys.

As far as stacks go, this is what I use:
Universal nutrition: Shock Therapy (Pre-workout)
Dark matter: (post workout)
Optimum nutrition gold standard whey protein
Optimum nutrition Procomplex weight gainer
Centrum multivitamins

I use this because I have an extremely active metabolism. I'm 6'3" and weigh 195 pounds. I have to use a weight gainer to provide enough calories through out the day. Like what others have said BSN is an expensive brand and overpriced. There are many alternatives out there.

The key is eating balanced and taking in protein through out the day. Protein synthesis happens during the day. Be sure you get plenty of rest, stay hydrated. If you're trying to cut down, eat lean foods (chicken breast, lean meats, fish) and cut down on the calories. You still need to maintain a balanced diet to ensure you are taking in adequate amounts of carbs, fats, and vitamins. Don't fall for trendy diets. A strict diet and exercise regiment is the best way to go. The results are reliable and the effects are long lasting.

On a reference note, I'm a biologist in the infant nutrition market. Nutrition is my specialty. Be really careful about information that you hear from "meatheads." A lot of methods that I over hear all the time are very dangerous for you body that can really screw you.
I thought Protein synthesis happens during sleep? I use the recommended dosage of 2 scoops for Syntha-6 I was doing some reading that it contains the slow digesting proteins. So that its good for overnight before bed.

Shock therapy never heard of that.

As far as No-xplode goes it works I have to go about 4 scoops. I cycled off for about a 1 week. But the body does get use to it quickly I think.
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I thought Protein synthesis happens during sleep? I use the recommended dosage of 2 scoops for Syntha-6 I was doing some reading that it contains the slow digesting proteins. So that its good for overnight before bed.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Syntha-6 is just probably a Casein blend. You take it at night along with other fatty food(healthy) such as peanut butter or cottage cheese and it'll keep your metabolism going throughout the night.




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Amount of protein intake is debatable but the formula I provided is not just by random meatheads on the internet, it's been around for a while approved various scientific community.


T-Nation.com | Protein Debate

Is Too Much Protein Unhealthy and Bad for Your Kidneys? | Fitness Black Book

As long as your kidneys are normal, staying active, and staying hydrated, OP shouldn't have much of a problem.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Syntha-6 is just probably a Casein blend. You take it at night along with other fatty food(healthy) such as peanut butter or cottage cheese and it'll keep your metabolism going throughout the night.




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Amount of protein intake is debatable but the formula I provided is not just by random meatheads on the internet, it's been around for a while approved various scientific community.


T-Nation.com | Protein Debate

Is Too Much Protein Unhealthy and Bad for Your Kidneys? | Fitness Black Book

As long as your kidneys are normal, staying active, and staying hydrated, OP shouldn't have much of a problem.
are you kidding me. 400g of protein (if we assume that the the OP weighs 200lbs) intake per day is an extreme excess. The articles mentioned are so flawed in studies because their controls use sports athletes that don't account for other "sports enhancing substances." Post something from a reputable dietitian or science journal that says 2g of protein is safe, then maybe there would be more backing. Prolonged intake of 400g of protein a day will cause all sorts of problems. Just off the top of my head, high cholesterol and kidney problems.

Don't get me wrong, athletes benefit from a higher amount of protein than recommended from the RDA. However, the human body is all about balance. If you're placing more stress on your body, the extra protein will benefit in the recovery process. But, if you give your body 400g of protein not only will most of it be passed out due to excess, but will place stress on the kidneys after prolonged high levels of protein. Balance is key.
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