why is nobody running these headers??

AlexRaymond19 · 02-26-2013, 12:55 PM

Z1 ran out of them. So i had to do some searching... ;-) Got them used

SS_Firehawk · 02-26-2013, 01:14 PM

I bought my PPE's with black ceramic coating used (but never used) for $750... shipped.

SS_Firehawk · 02-26-2013, 02:34 PM

I'll say that the 30whp I gained with the PPE's and exhaust untuned is a good indicator of it's performance. There was no break in or learning period, it was installed and dyno'd immediately after. Every Momentum header dyno I've seen has been tuned. I think the whole argument is nonsense though. We are fighting over peak numbers and haven't even looked at the rest. Both the PPE and Momentum collector are very similar. The other differences are the stepped design and physical length of the pipes before merging. PPE's are matched to the RPM of the engine. Momentum headers are amazing though, I'm just have a difficult time believing that it would outperform the PPE's given the same conditions.

edub370 · 02-26-2013, 02:59 PM

i would like to see a dyno chart of a car running test pipes, cat back, and tuned. THEN see how much hp the ppe headers can add (tuned again of course)

basically, i like the headers, but don't know if i will see much gain over the 326whp i am currently seeing with stock headers and tp's

edub370 · 02-27-2013, 06:02 PM

question:

what kinda whp gain do u guys think i could pick up by switching to ppe headers + tune given my curent setup is cbe + test pipes + tune?

AlexRaymond19 · 02-27-2013, 06:06 PM

Well I would say from what I have seen at least 20whp with your current setup and adding PPE lth and a tune

chrischhorn · 02-27-2013, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Well I would say from what I have seen at least 20whp with your current setup and adding PPE lth and a tune

Agreed, if you aren't tuned yet, then with the PPE's THEN a tune, I could see a pretty big gain. If you are already tuned and swap to PPE's you may see a 5-10whp. Test pipes are one of the largest gains on our car which you already have. People who swap to PPE with stock cats and headers see massive gains mainly because the cats are being removed.

AlexRaymond19 · 02-27-2013, 06:07 PM

Oh wait, didnt see your test pipes. I would say 12-20 expected with no disappointment

AlexRaymond19 · 02-27-2013, 06:07 PM

Lol I am throwing out such a broad number that I cant be wrong!!!

SS_Firehawk · 02-27-2013, 06:31 PM

I agree with the assessments. It's not the biggest bang for buck mod, but with your CNT exhaust, it should kill any rasp. Then it really starts to sound bad ***. It's kinda like the whole "on weed skit" "Ever heard Motordynes exhaust? Ever heard Motordynes exhaust on PPE's?" Kinda like that...

02-26-2013, 12:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Z1 ran out of them. So i had to do some searching... ;-) Got them used __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

02-26-2013, 01:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7336	I bought my PPE's with black ceramic coating used (but never used) for $750... shipped. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

02-26-2013, 02:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7336	I'll say that the 30whp I gained with the PPE's and exhaust untuned is a good indicator of it's performance. There was no break in or learning period, it was installed and dyno'd immediately after. Every Momentum header dyno I've seen has been tuned. I think the whole argument is nonsense though. We are fighting over peak numbers and haven't even looked at the rest. Both the PPE and Momentum collector are very similar. The other differences are the stepped design and physical length of the pipes before merging. PPE's are matched to the RPM of the engine. Momentum headers are amazing though, I'm just have a difficult time believing that it would outperform the PPE's given the same conditions. AlexRaymond19 and chrischhorn like this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

02-26-2013, 02:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	i would like to see a dyno chart of a car running test pipes, cat back, and tuned. THEN see how much hp the ppe headers can add (tuned again of course) basically, i like the headers, but don't know if i will see much gain over the 326whp i am currently seeing with stock headers and tp's __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

02-27-2013, 06:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	question: what kinda whp gain do u guys think i could pick up by switching to ppe headers + tune given my curent setup is cbe + test pipes + tune? __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

02-27-2013, 06:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Well I would say from what I have seen at least 20whp with your current setup and adding PPE lth and a tune __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

02-27-2013, 06:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Oh wait, didnt see your test pipes. I would say 12-20 expected with no disappointment __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

02-27-2013, 06:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Lol I am throwing out such a broad number that I cant be wrong!!! __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

02-27-2013, 06:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7336	I agree with the assessments. It's not the biggest bang for buck mod, but with your CNT exhaust, it should kill any rasp. Then it really starts to sound bad *. It's kinda like the whole "on weed skit" "Ever heard Motordynes exhaust? Ever heard Motordynes exhaust on PPE's?" Kinda like that... AlexRaymond19 likes this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd** 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

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