Admin 3" Long Tube Intakes

Chuck33079 · 07-27-2017, 09:08 AM

Dude, that's just not possible. Facebook says this guy makes great parts and is the bestest tuner for my mad tyte cambered out jalopy.

Elmo370z · 07-27-2017, 11:16 AM

I would send those intakes back, as for a refund or get him to fix it. Be civil as possible and if he turns out to be a d bag blast him. Call your CC company and file a dispute.

MoncefVQ · 07-27-2017, 12:53 PM

Hey everyone,

My name is Moncef and I am the owner of AdminTuning. I designed the intakes and have them built in Houston TX.

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Originally Posted by Eagle

Everything i've heard about the Admin tuning intakes is that they require a MAF scaling tune at minimum, perform the best with the EPS throttle bodies...which at this point you are now looking at $1800 for some CAI's and +22 whp gains? Maybe 40whp with the throttle bodies?
It also bothers me that Moncef, the owner of Admin Tuning will not post apples to apples dyno sheets of lets say a Stillen Gen 3 with a tune next to Admin Tuning with MAF scaling. Why? Because the results are going to be close and you'll be spending $1200 for what you could get for ~$900 (assuming you purchase used Gen 3 intakes).

The cost just doesn't seem worth it to me and pretty much defeats the purpose of a CAI, which is a low cost bolt on mod that gets you a little pick up.

Also, i'd like to point out that K&N drop ins or short ram intakes with a tune may get you within 90% of a CAI on the dyno...but try that in the real world with some heat and watch that 90% drop fast due to heat soak.

Thank you for your feedback here. As far as apples to apples dynos against the Stillen G3 intakes, I do not have one. However, I have had customers who go back to the same shop after switching intakes and nothing else who have picked up anywhere from 10-12whp over OTHER aftermarket intakes such as the Z1Motorsports intakes as well as Injen intakes (which we originally tested against on the older 35HR engines).

The ONLY test that I have vs G3s was tuned vs tuned, but the client added throttle bodies in between.

I will disagree with you on your comment on the throttle bodies, since these intakes have made 22whp over stock airboxes on a bone stock car with stock throttle bodies and only MAF scaling. This means stock ignition timing, stock VVEL, stock cam tables, etc. The Base Fuel Schedule in UpRev did not change enough to create an indirect positive shift in ignition timing either. In my experience on tuning these cars (and 8 years of tuning VQ based engines) I have found that most of the horsepower gain with tuning only is attributed to tuning the ignition timing and tuning the cams. You will not gain 22whp or even half that off of AF tuning alone, that is why I think this is a valid test.

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Originally Posted by Eagle

I don't have anything against him personally but I certainly don't like false advertising. He and his fanbois claim they make more power than any other solution out there, but the catch is you have to pay for a tune and or buy throttle bodies to take advantage of a 3" intake charge pipe. Congratulations, you get to spend $1800 on something that should have been no more than $600 for a new CAI. For that kind of money I would much rather get a new set of Stillen G3's, an oil cooler and upgrade my brake pads. Outside of the 370z world even $600 is a lot of money for something like a CAI.

He's also pushing people to tune their cars after just doing the CAI which i think most people on this forum know is pretty stupid...unless of course you got money burn. Even if it is just MAF scaling, you're paying the same amount you would for an actual tune!!!

He may be a nice guy, he may have a decent product and know how to tune...but he is pretty bad about being honest with the community about what it means when you buy a set of Admin Tuning intakes.

Once again, throttle bodies are not necessary. They are nice but not necessary.

I have never told anyone to tune their cars with a CAI only. Yes my intakes require a tune but I have always marketed it to people with exhaust upgrades first. I have suggested a lot of potential customers to buy test pipes and cat-backs before touching my intake and then tune all at once. The exhaust is a more primary restriction on these cars (370/G37) than anything else. If the customer wants a tune on a stock cat back with my parts on it after being disclosed that information, I am happy to do so.

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Originally Posted by Eagle

No need to apologize, I think you nailed it. Basically everyone understands that it's stupid to play the dyno game with cold air intakes. You just aren't going to make a lot of power, end of story. But Admin Tuning wants people to pay a butt load of cash for a kit that is not worth the cost...and then people are out there online thanking him for it and spreading the BS.

The cost of production and testing and the final results are contributing factors to the final price. I don't make claims with only BS or fake news behind them. I first tested the 3" CAI idea on the 350Z HR with nothing but positive results (8-11whp on TOP of a tuned car with Injen intakes originally, from ~5000 RPM to redline - bear in mind the Injen intakes are already 3" up to the MAF sensor housing where they reduce down to 2.5). and then fabbed a kit for the VHR cars. Afterwards, there was a lot of chatter about testing them on a bone stock car so that is what we did.

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Originally Posted by 1cintron

As a current Admin Tuning Intake owner, I don't recommend you spend the $$ on them... i am not much of a fan since the piping is not smooth in the inside and can affect air flow... the pictures below show the obstructions in the pipe from manufacture/welding in the direction of air flow.

Luis, you had purchased these through EPS, if you have an issue with the product, please reach out to me directly. My # is 319.899.9763.
Thanks everyone for the feedback,

You can PM me here or email me at moncef.faik@gmail.com or contact me at the number above.

Justint5387 · 02-21-2018, 10:17 AM

Bumping the thread... Does the Admin Intake require cutting like the Stillen?

MoncefVQ · 02-21-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Justint5387

Bumping the thread... Does the Admin Intake require cutting like the Stillen?

Yes, they do.

Nismo 370z · 03-29-2018, 11:21 PM

Do you think the AAM intake manifold is worth it for a full NA setup when paired with your intakes, EPS throttle bodies, a tune, Z1 headers, test pipes and exhaust?

Rusty · 03-30-2018, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo 370z

Do you think the AAM intake manifold is worth it for a full NA setup when paired with your intakes, EPS throttle bodies, a tune, Z1 headers, test pipes and exhaust?

My guess would be no. No one with a N/A has put up any dyno numbers yet that I know of.

NorthStyle · 03-31-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo 370z

Do you think the AAM intake manifold is worth it for a full NA setup when paired with your intakes, EPS throttle bodies, a tune, Z1 headers, test pipes and exhaust?

I'd wait to see how SOHO's manifold turns out. But from everything we've seen, the AAM manifold doesn't do much.

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Originally Posted by Rusty

My guess would be no. No one with a N/A has put up any dyno numbers yet that I know of.

One forum member posted a dyno with it and a few other mods installed, but the numbers weren't superior to what a normal mild-full bolt-on Z would put up.

Rusty · 03-31-2018, 06:32 PM

That's why I don't remember it. Low numbers.

Elmo370z · 04-01-2018, 01:24 AM

NO MANIFOLD IS GOING TO MAKE POWER ANY OF YOUR NA FULL BOLT STOCK BLOCK CARS!!. Geeez sus

Calg37USMC · 04-01-2018, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

NO MANIFOLD IS GOING TO MAKE POWER ANY OF YOUR NA FULL BOLT STOCK BLOCK CARS!!. Geeez sus

So don’t waste my time with the GTR manifold conversion?

Elmo370z · 04-01-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Calg37USMC

So don’t waste my time with the GTR manifold conversion?

Unless you’re going to TT your car, these manifold lose so much power with single top mount turbos.

Rusty · 04-01-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Calg37USMC

So don’t waste my time with the GTR manifold conversion?

Correct. Elmo gave a great example. For a N/A motor. It's about balance between cfm and velocity. A turbo manifold is more on the cfm side of the equation.

Bswanny · 07-14-2018, 10:43 AM

So is there a noticeable difference between Stillen Gen3 or Admin given the extra $?

Elmo370z · 07-17-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bswanny

So is there a noticeable difference between Stillen Gen3 or Admin given the extra $?

Maybe up at the very top but nothing worth the extra 150 bucks you're going to spend on admins intakes. If you just use google and look at all the dyno's before the 3inch intakes got so much hype the power curve it relatively the same. Friend of mine with stillen intakes ppe longtube and MVR ported uppper with race gas made 360whp on two different dynos. Up for debate, but i squared off against it and she moves out.

07-27-2017, 09:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Dude, that's just not possible. Facebook says this guy makes great parts and is the bestest tuner for my mad tyte cambered out jalopy. Kingbaby, Spartan 1771, Elmo370z and 2 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-31-2018, 06:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,542 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684439	That's why I don't remember it. Low numbers. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

04-01-2018, 01:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,727 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295379	NO MANIFOLD IS GOING TO MAKE POWER ANY OF YOUR NA FULL BOLT STOCK BLOCK CARS!!. Geeez sus Chuck33079, Rusty, beauz and 1 others like this.

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