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Old 03-18-2014, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Joe or Sasha, did the kit come with new hardware for the triangle flange or will I need to reuse the ones from my HFCs? I haven't gone through the entire hardware bag and just wondering if I need to source new bolts when I sell my HFCs or if I can provide the ones off my car.
All hardware is included. However, if one of the studs on the OEM headers doesn't come out, you leave it in there, and re-use the OEM nut with the stud. I think one stud stay on each one of the three-bolt flanges.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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All hardware is included. However, if one of the studs on the OEM headers doesn't come out, you leave it in there, and re-use the OEM nut with the stud. I think one stud stay on each one of the three-bolt flanges.
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Figure that was the answer since you include EVERYTHING. I kind of remember a stud staying on each side but its been over three years since hfc install
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So what is the bare minimum required for guages? a/f, boost, and then?? Never really put much thought into it. I am trying to budget my build out

Also, recomended brands? Things I should stay away from? I rather do the guages on the cheaper side to get me by, then upgrade later if needed.
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So what is the bare minimum required for guages? a/f, boost, and then?? Never really put much thought into it. I am trying to budget my build out

Also, recomended brands? Things I should stay away from? I rather do the guages on the cheaper side to get me by, then upgrade later if needed.
Boost and AFR at minimum. Don't go too cheap. If you buy some Prosport garbage and your motor lets go because the gauge malfunctioned and you didn't know you were too lean or overboosting like crazy, did you really save any money?
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Aem and Defi are the big guys,innovate is popular for AFR PLX is neat, almost when with them to be honest, but the 2 in one gauge is great...less know but heard they are really good is Zeintronics... I like the AEMs but 60mm would be nice, the 52 are just a tad small being in the middle, might be better on the pillar.

Not a must but I really like seeing the oil pressure, its more a false sense of security because it will probably be too late by the time I see the oil pressure is gone but I like to know, it was important enough for the 350z...
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First of all I agree with Chuck, don't cheap on gauges! You will only save a few hundred bucks to go cheap so DON'T DO IT!

I looked at both the PLX and Zeitronixs because I was trying to run my entire setup with one gauge.

Zeitronixs limits to two readings but will provide an audio alarm for anything else it monitors to tell you to pull your foot out of it. I was going to run AFR and Boost with it and monitor oil temperature on the audit alarm. You couldn't get both oil pressure and temp.

PLX is nice because you can get the gauge that will monitor four items at once and if you plug into the OBDII it'll pull some stuff from the ECU that you can monitor. The draw backs were that you had to hook up, power and find space for five different 2"x3" modules if you were monitoring four items (the gauge module and one each for what you are monitoring), also a member on the forum was using them and he told me that at times the screen would freeze and the only way to correct it was to turn car on and off. Having four on screen still didn't allow me to monitor everything I wanted, which is AFR/Boost/Oil Temp&Press/Water Temp. I also recall that there were preset ways you could have the four gauge screen configure and it didn't allow the options I wanted on screen.

In the end I became comfortable with the fact that I needed more than one gauge. Ultimately I decided on Innovate for AFR and the GReddy Multi-gauge for Boost/Oil Press&Temp. I am also plugging water temp into the GReddy but will only monitor it every once in awhile to see what temps I'm getting while beating on it on hot days.
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Awesome info guys! Now do you reccomend a specific vendor? z1? Anywhere?
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Bought mine from Ryan at Moddiction he is a newer vendor, but I bought shift knobs from him before, good prices and super fast shipping. Also Z1 is good, and Joe at Zspeedperformance, between those vendors I have had excellent service. With gauges everyone will be in the ball park I would say.

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I bought my GReddy gauge from THMotorsports mainly because they offered 15% off all GReddy products so I saved $70 on it. The Innovate I bought off Amazon because it was $35 cheaper than anywhere else.

I have had great experience with the people listed by Joe except I've never dealt with R/T Tuning.
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Again guys, thanks for the awesome info. It is very helpful.

So far im planning clutch/flywheel/cmc/csc, quaff rear diff, rear diff brace, guages, possible upgraded radiator and turbo kit and tune.

Just trying to get as much unforeseen crap planned for as possible.

After the kit ill be uprading from base brakes (dont need them right away, trying to go faster, not slow down ) and electronic boost control.

Feel like I am missing tons of stuff, but maybe that is because this turbo kit comes with EVERYTHING.

Is there any need to upgrade MAF sensors?

Also can anyone think of a possible way to make it look like I have cats with this kit? Even if they are fake? Need to pass visual inspection only. Im thinking modifying the recirc pipes somehow to look like cats are on there, and hope for a dumb tech. I have test pipes now, and just slipped the guy 40 bucks to pass me. Dont think i will always get that lucky though
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Again guys, thanks for the awesome info. It is very helpful.

So far im planning clutch/flywheel/cmc/csc, quaff rear diff, rear diff brace, guages, possible upgraded radiator and turbo kit and tune.

Just trying to get as much unforeseen crap planned for as possible.

After the kit ill be uprading from base brakes (dont need them right away, trying to go faster, not slow down ) and electronic boost control.

Feel like I am missing tons of stuff, but maybe that is because this turbo kit comes with EVERYTHING.

Is there any need to upgrade MAF sensors?

Also can anyone think of a possible way to make it look like I have cats with this kit? Even if they are fake? Need to pass visual inspection only. Im thinking modifying the recirc pipes somehow to look like cats are on there, and hope for a dumb tech. I have test pipes now, and just slipped the guy 40 bucks to pass me. Dont think i will always get that lucky though
You could drill out the spot welds on the heat shields around a set of cats and rivet them around piping further downstream. It wouldn't fool a trained eye, but the dropout at Jiffylube wouldn't know the difference.
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No need to upgrade the MAF sensors. The charge pipes are 2.75" and the OEM sensors are good for a lot more power than the stock block can handle.

If you do end up building the engine, I can always make some 3" charge pipes as well. This will be a lot cheaper than a pair of aftermarket MAF sensors.
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No need to upgrade the MAF sensors. The charge pipes are 2.75" and the OEM sensors are good for a lot more power than the stock block can handle.

If you do end up building the engine, I can always make some 3" charge pipes as well. This will be a lot cheaper than a pair of aftermarket MAF sensors.

One my setup with 3 inch GTM charge pipes I started to get close to maxing out my MAF's after 550whp our so. I do think a stock block car can get away with a little more than that.
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Sasha you still planning to try and work up a stock oem downpipe with cats in it when the in-house build starts?
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