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Originally Posted by Mitco39 I believe you are wrong. Flat foot shifting is not lifting your foot off the throttle but still using the clutch to switch gears just as

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Old 03-27-2013, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I believe you are wrong. Flat foot shifting is not lifting your foot off the throttle but still using the clutch to switch gears just as you would. With the RLTC it kicks in a rev limiter that you set that is tripped when you press the clutch allowing you to hold the throttle at 100% and not bounce off the rev limiter.

Since you never let off the throttle you do not bleed off boost which according to RL can shave 0.10s off each shift.
that's how the no lift shift worked on the Supercharged Cobalt.
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I believe you are wrong. Flat foot shifting is not lifting your foot off the throttle but still using the clutch to switch gears just as you would. With the RLTC it kicks in a rev limiter that you set that is tripped when you press the clutch allowing you to hold the throttle at 100% and not bounce off the rev limiter.

Since you never let off the throttle you do not bleed off boost which according to RL can shave 0.10s off each shift.
I stand corrected. I was thinking of the FR-S/BRZ version of flat foot shifting via Ecutek software that does precisely what I described. You are correct, the Racelogic doesn't have an input for a gearshift sensor to accomplish true flat-foot shifting (no clutch).
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I do this when I get on it now but would love to see what this system does in this area
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Ive used mine at the track 1/4 mile. i tried everything and could not find how to use the launch control. Car lost 2 th's with traction control on , But it ran straight as an arrow.
never spun the tire's (305 35 18 M/T drag radials/
Now on a 7 AT if you try to hold the gas and brake the ECU kill the engine and it will drop rpm and run terrible off the line. If your lucky may be 1700 rpm with out your back wheels braking free on the stock converter, You have to pull the brake fuse. I have a Pro torque 3200 rpm stall converter and i hold the car at 2000 rpm you then mash the gas and let the brake pedal go on the start of the last yellow light. I have a video of this and the car moves at 3200 rpm. I have talked to Sam how to get it to work for i would love to launch at 5000 rpm. He is working on this for me and i hope that he finds a way to make it work. What setting did you set the slip for on the race logic for this . Ive tried ever setting and got really frustrated with it. I removed the race logic and the car ran a 12.50 vs a 12.70. I have not given up on it but it gets a little busy in the car after you leave the burn out box. My car also runs richer A/f when i run the race logic. Driving it on the street is way better than the factory TC. Do you also turn of the factory TC when you run the race logic? When the brake fuse is pulled the factory TC should not work,
im running 12.342 now with out it and i have no traction problems coming off the line 1.80 60 ft times but i do have line lock to heat up the back tire's
Well thats what i found how my car drives with it, Its great in the rain.
I also have 4.08 gears in the car.
If some body figures out how to make it work at the track please let me know
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Ive used mine at the track 1/4 mile. i tried everything and could not find how to use the launch control. Car lost 2 th's with traction control on , But it ran straight as an arrow.
never spun the tire's (305 35 18 M/T drag radials/
Now on a 7 AT if you try to hold the gas and brake the ECU kill the engine and it will drop rpm and run terrible off the line. If your lucky may be 1700 rpm with out your back wheels braking free on the stock converter, You have to pull the brake fuse. I have a Pro torque 3200 rpm stall converter and i hold the car at 2000 rpm you then mash the gas and let the brake pedal go on the start of the last yellow light. I have a video of this and the car moves at 3200 rpm. I have talked to Sam how to get it to work for i would love to launch at 5000 rpm. He is working on this for me and i hope that he finds a way to make it work. What setting did you set the slip for on the race logic for this . Ive tried ever setting and got really frustrated with it. I removed the race logic and the car ran a 12.50 vs a 12.70. I have not given up on it but it gets a little busy in the car after you leave the burn out box. My car also runs richer A/f when i run the race logic. Driving it on the street is way better than the factory TC. Do you also turn of the factory TC when you run the race logic? When the brake fuse is pulled the factory TC should not work,
im running 12.342 now with out it and i have no traction problems coming off the line 1.80 60 ft times but i do have line lock to heat up the back tire's
Well thats what i found how my car drives with it, Its great in the rain.
I also have 4.08 gears in the car.
If some body figures out how to make it work at the track please let me know
thanks

Z
That's strange, isn't GTM RaceLogic supposed to be an advantage on the 1/4 mile drag ? As far as I understand the main idea with RaceLogic is to put as much power to the ground as possible without loosing the traction. So in theory it should help to achieve better drag times than without it (ofcourse with oem Taction Control system off). Am I wrong?
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That's strange, isn't GTM RaceLogic supposed to be an advantage on the 1/4 mile drag ? As far as I understand the main idea with RaceLogic is to put as much power to the ground as possible without loosing the traction. So in theory it should help to achieve better drag times than without it (ofcourse with oem Taction Control system off). Am I wrong?
You are right to a certain extent. BUT, getting traction by killing power will never be as good as sticker tires or better throttle/clutch technique. You have to find that sweet spot for it to work right. Of course this is only for launch. Traction control for the turns can be much better as slower in and fast out will always net faster times.

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You are right to a certain extent. BUT, getting traction by killing power will never be as good as sticker tires or better throttle/clutch technique. You have to find that sweet spot for it to work right. Of course this is only for launch. Traction control for the turns can be much better as slower in and fast out will always net faster times.


Of course sticker tires would always be best for traction,but in car on the street without sticky track tires is where the system shines. You also have to remember the system can be adjusted to where it barley interferes to the point where its like its not even there.As you have pointed out you have to find that sweet spot and you can also use throttle control/ technique with it I know I do.



For a car like mine it's a big plus there is no boost by gear or timing by gear that can control traction and power like the GTR's have.
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Ive used mine at the track 1/4 mile. i tried everything and could not find how to use the launch control. Car lost 2 th's with traction control on , But it ran straight as an arrow.
never spun the tire's (305 35 18 M/T drag radials/
Now on a 7 AT if you try to hold the gas and brake the ECU kill the engine and it will drop rpm and run terrible off the line. If your lucky may be 1700 rpm with out your back wheels braking free on the stock converter, You have to pull the brake fuse. I have a Pro torque 3200 rpm stall converter and i hold the car at 2000 rpm you then mash the gas and let the brake pedal go on the start of the last yellow light. I have a video of this and the car moves at 3200 rpm. I have talked to Sam how to get it to work for i would love to launch at 5000 rpm. He is working on this for me and i hope that he finds a way to make it work. What setting did you set the slip for on the race logic for this . Ive tried ever setting and got really frustrated with it. I removed the race logic and the car ran a 12.50 vs a 12.70. I have not given up on it but it gets a little busy in the car after you leave the burn out box. My car also runs richer A/f when i run the race logic. Driving it on the street is way better than the factory TC. Do you also turn of the factory TC when you run the race logic? When the brake fuse is pulled the factory TC should not work,
im running 12.342 now with out it and i have no traction problems coming off the line 1.80 60 ft times but i do have line lock to heat up the back tire's
Well thats what i found how my car drives with it, Its great in the rain.
I also have 4.08 gears in the car.
If some body figures out how to make it work at the track please let me know
thanks

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Z It sounds like you haven't figured out how to use the system correctly. I don't have auto like you I have no problem doing 5000 rpm launches,hopefully with Sams help you can get that figured out.

I can tell you this you have to turn off the factory TC it will kick in before Racelogic. If you was having problems with the system leaving the burnout box just shut if off tell your finish doing your burnout. After your done doing your burnout then turn it back on. This is how I plan on using the system once I take my car to the track. Also this is the main reason I mounted the system right next to me to it's easily accessible.
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The GTR doesn't have an automatic transmission. It has a MT controlled by a computer.
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