[BP single kit] Compturbo died @ 6k miles; looking at replacements

-ZS-Carpenter · 06-08-2021, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

Assumptions without facts is always a bad idea.

Like I said before, there was an incident where the compressor cover was removed from the turbo at time of install, and not installed back properly (square). The damage was identical to this, and forum warriors were all over it...*Sh!t turbo, "turbo needs oil brooo"...bla, bla...BLA!

No different than 3 customers having overboost issues...forum experts jump right on that too, and say poor design of kit, this that and a bunch of other BS. Only to find out that the installer mixed up the vacuum lines.

Always enjoy opinions, base on 3% of knowledge about the actual situation. Been doing this for a long time, seen it all.

As for "play", every turbo has "play", especially a JB turbo. If it didn't, it would explode the first time it gets up to the 1,400 deg F operating mark under full load.

And how many of those janky air cooled turbos did you have drop shipped without changing your product description? I'm sure BettyZ wasn't the only person to open the box and go

"wtf is this? I didn't buy this"

"they cool the hot bearing housing with hot air and it's not even hooked to the oiling system to help cool it off"

No wonder the warranty is crap.

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HOODEY · 06-08-2021, 09:09 PM

Sasha I know eventually these turbo were going to come back to haunt you.

I mentioned many types of higher quality turbos like the borg wargner efr9180, garett g35-950. The oil less turbo method limits the customer's choices.

BettyZ · 06-08-2021, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter

And how many of those janky air cooled turbos did you have drop shipped without changing your product description? I'm sure BettyZ wasn't the only person to open the box and go

"wtf is this? I didn't buy this"

"they cool the hot bearing housing with hot air and it's not even hooked to the oiling system to help cool it off"

No wonder the warranty is crap.

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I'm not sure how it works in Canada, but in all 50 States, offering a customer a product, and then delivering something significantly different, not only voids the contract but is also illegal. The technical term would be "fraud."

May not apply in my case as I learned this before delivery and accepted the delivery. But for those that had no idea, and thought they were getting a water-cooled turbo, there may be a cause of action there.

Boosted Performance · 06-08-2021, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

I'm not sure how it works in Canada, but in all 50 States, offering a customer a product, and then delivering something significantly different, not only voids the contract but is also illegal. The technical term would be "fraud."

May not apply in my case as I learned this before delivery and accepted the delivery. But for those that had no idea, and thought they were getting a water-cooled turbo, there may be a cause of action there.

The air cooled turbo is a $200 upgrade...so customers were getting an upgrade at no extra charge...but okay....The itemized list was also updated a long time ago, and specifies "air cooled". There may have been a handful of customers where these upgraded turbos were shipped to, who may have seen the "water cooled" turbo on the part list.

-ZS-Carpenter · 06-09-2021, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

The air cooled turbo is a $200 upgrade...so customers were getting an upgrade at no extra charge...but okay....The itemized list was also updated a long time ago, and specifies "air cooled". There may have been a handful of customers where these upgraded turbos were shipped to, who may have seen the "water cooled" turbo on the part list.

How much cheaper is one that gets both oil and coolant? The downgrade to air cooled cost more than 2 lines and a couple fittings. If you downgraded to one that was properly lubricated does it cover the cost of a scavenge pump?

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Boosted Performance · 06-09-2021, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter

How much cheaper is one that gets both oil and coolant? The downgrade to air cooled cost more than 2 lines and a couple fittings. If you downgraded to one that was properly lubricated does it cover the cost of a scavenge pump?

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So, with thousands of these turbos out there on so many different builds, you don't think it would be easy to find issues with this line of turbos?

Water cooled with lines is cheaper than air cooled, and air cooled is more reliable than a complete scavenge pump setup.

-ZS-Carpenter · 06-09-2021, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

Water cooled with lines is cheaper than air cooled, and air cooled is more reliable than a complete scavenge pump setup.

Now you are just spewing BS to defend your product. That is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a long time. To top it off it's a new product so you have no data to prove it's more reliable in the real world.

It is impossible to keep temps as low as a real turbo especially with the location on your kit. The higher temps alone will equal reduced lifespan. That BS might work on the Facebook idiots but not on me.

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06-08-2021, 09:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
HOODEY Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barbados Posts: 43 Drives: Uk spec 08 350z gt Rep Power: 13	Sasha I know eventually these turbo were going to come back to haunt you. I mentioned many types of higher quality turbos like the borg wargner efr9180, garett g35-950. The oil less turbo method limits the customer's choices. Rusty, Optimiser, -ZS-Carpenter and 2 others like this.

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