RJM Whipple Customer Thread

[bullitt5897]

Wow a lot of hate from people who have never seen or touched the kit in person...

First of all Flying out to train someone is a good thing. Bobby is ensuring people know what they are doing and setting up a certified installer network. Installing the kit for customers was a bonus for those who pre-ordered...

As far as taking time on the install that is on the individual installer. I have personally installed this kit more than a dozen times. You can and I repeat CAN install this kit in 4 hours with hand tools... This kit is extremely easy to install however, not everyone is mechanically inclined or qualified... Bobby and I are updating the install instructions and plan to have a very detailed set out for users to reference online.

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Wow a lot of hate from people who have never seen or touched the kit in person...

Exactly. A lot of the hate is from the fact that no one has seen or touched a kit in person, despite the fact that this kit was posted up here years ago. There really hasn't been much in the way of results or finished builds to look at. At this point, instead of dyno sheets and finished builds all we've seen is a bunch of "gonna" and "should".

Look, all it's going to take to turn this around is good results. R&D often takes so much longer than originally expected that it seems like it'll never be done. I just think RJM was a little early on their announcements for the kit. There's always a bunch of setbacks on new ideas, so maybe it would be better if everything was kept a little quieter until the end was in sight.

[bullitt5897]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Exactly. A lot of the hate is from the fact that no one has seen or touched a kit in person, despite the fact that this kit was posted up here years ago. There really hasn't been much in the way of results or finished builds to look at. At this point, instead of dyno sheets and finished builds all we've seen is a bunch of "gonna" and "should".

Look, all it's going to take to turn this around is good results. R&D often takes so much longer than originally expected that it seems like it'll never be done. I just think RJM was a little early on their announcements for the kit. There's always a bunch of setbacks on new ideas, so maybe it would be better if everything was kept a little quieter until the end was in sight.

Results were posted day 1 of the launch... it was even on the flyer at zdayz...

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Results were posted day 1 of the launch... it was even on the flyer at zdayz...

Case closed. It was on the flyer. Nothing to see here, move along.

[bullitt5897]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Case closed. It was on the flyer. Nothing to see here, move along.

You guys keep asking for dyno numbers from all these guys like they owe you something... RJM posted the dyno numbers day 1. I was there at the dyno session as well as several subsequent sessions on the same stock motor and trans at even higher numbers. That car went to Zdayz and I drove the car the whole week giving people rides in the car and beating on it. It ran flawlessly and even saved my *** when my diff stud broke on my car on the way home from zdayz...

The install is super simple...

Basic instructions:

1. Remove intakes
2. Remove intake plenums and Throttle Bodies
3. Remove Remove stock fuel rails and injectors
4. Install lower intake plenum and screw it into the heads.
5. Install the supplied oring
6. Install supplied injectors into fuel rail plenum.
7. Lower fuel rail plenum onto lower plenum and fasten it down.
8. Install sensors and connect them into factory harness.
9. Install bypass valve onto fuel rail plenum
10. Install oring on top of fuel rail plenum
11. hook up fuel lines
12. install supplied upgraded fuel pump
13. connect injectors to injector electrical harness
14. pressure test the fuel system *if no leaks exist continue forward*
15. Install intecooler core and fasten it down
16. Install supercharger onto supercharger base plate.
17. install rear manifold onto supercharger
18. install front snout onto supercharger
19. Install supercharger baseplate and assembly
20. finish hooking up bypass valve
21. Install TB elbows
22. install TB and hook them up
23. remove front bumper and crash bar
24. install water pump to heat exchanger
25. ensure heat exchanger wiring is facing rear of car and not down (safety concern for those with "Race heat exchanger")
26. Wire in supplied relay to water pump
27. Install heat exchanger with water pump and connect to relay.
28. install coolant service reservoir
29. Run coolant lines from heat exchanger to reservoir and to intercooler
30. Remove factory belt
31. install idlers onto brackets
32. install brakets
33. install supercharger pulley
34. install new belt and route over the supercharger.
35. fill the supercharger with supplied oil *per manual instructions*
36. install intakes and filters
37. install coolant int service reservoir and burp it with the electric water pump
38. inspect install and ensure everything is buttoned down.
39. Install tune *Eugene is one of the partnered tuners for this kit and has canned tunes.*
40. Final check then crank the car

I am sure I am missing a small details in a step or two but this is the high level install of the kit. its not that hard...

[Senna-F1]

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

You guys keep asking for dyno numbers from all these guys like they owe you something... RJM posted the dyno numbers day 1.

Are you talking about these dyno numbers?

This graph is messed up. The obvious issue is with the spikes in TQ. Who wants that? The troubling part is that in the early TQ spikes you can see that the HP curve does not match up with the spike. It should! TQ jumped from 400 to 472 and back to 400 all within a span of just 250 RPM! it was THIS 472 ft/lbs that RJM chose as the Max torque for the pull.

Funny that in the last set of TQ spikes, RJM did chose to have the HP spike as well. Must be so that they could then list the max HP as 533.

It’s obvious one of the lines is being manipulated some and then taking what appears to be serious issues with the kit/tune/dyno, and reporting those as the final max numbers.

Given what I’ve said and considering our last go around with your highly exaggerated claims of power increase from RJM Products and my comments, the ones you repeatedly asked me to delete, it’s understandable that you saying “RJM posted the dyno numbers” isn’t going to satisfy most of us. This isn’t Facebook where things RJM doesn’t like suddenly disappear.

[Ghostvette]

Originally Posted by Senna-F1

Are you talking about these dyno numbers?

This graph is messed up. The obvious issue is with the spikes in TQ. Who wants that? The troubling part is that in the early TQ spikes you can see that the HP curve does not match up with the spike. It should! TQ jumped from 400 to 472 and back to 400 all within a span of just 250 RPM! it was THIS 472 ft/lbs that RJM chose as the Max torque for the pull.

Funny that in the last set of TQ spikes, RJM did chose to have the HP spike as well. Must be so that they could then list the max HP as 533.

It’s obvious one of the lines is being manipulated some and then taking what appears to be serious issues with the kit/tune/dyno, and reporting those as the final max numbers.

Given what I’ve said and considering our last go around with your highly exaggerated claims of power increase from RJM Products and my comments, the ones you repeatedly asked me to delete, it’s understandable that you saying “RJM posted the dyno numbers” isn’t going to satisfy most of us. This isn’t Facebook where things RJM doesn’t like suddenly disappear.

This should be titled 'How to kill a 370Z'...

Torque & HP curves should be smooth, without 'lumps & bumps'...

I call BS on the whole thing. Bullitt, no offense, but you sound like someone that's being paid to be a shill, all 'no one owes the community a dyno sheet', 'we don't understand', 'there's plenty of done cars', 'the kit is so simple', etc. That sounds like a shill to me.

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Exactly. A lot of the hate is from the fact that no one has seen or touched a kit in person, despite the fact that this kit was posted up here years ago. There really hasn't been much in the way of results or finished builds to look at. At this point, instead of dyno sheets and finished builds all we've seen is a bunch of "gonna" and "should".

Look, all it's going to take to turn this around is good results. R&D often takes so much longer than originally expected that it seems like it'll never be done. I just think RJM was a little early on their announcements for the kit. There's always a bunch of setbacks on new ideas, so maybe it would be better if everything was kept a little quieter until the end was in sight.

not to jump in on anyone's side here but i've seen/touched this kit a good bit at last years zdayz. seen the car running and ripping with it so it does work idk anything more though.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

not to jump in on anyone's side here but i've seen/touched this kit a good bit at last years zdayz. seen the car running and ripping with it so it does work idk anything more though.

I've seen the car at ZDayZ. Watch Bullet beat on it. It runs. It sounds good. But it's the only one that I know that runs.

[Jayhovah]

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Wow a lot of hate from people who have never seen or touched the kit in person...

I'm pretty sure you know exactly why/where the hate is coming from.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Bobby is ensuring people know what they are doing and setting up a certified installer network.

I have seen the kit. I have touched it. But if you had said that the first time instead of this...

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Bobby flew out to California to train Eugene Turkov and to show others how easy this install is.

... I wouldn't have questioned anything. I was simply asking the question based on your statement.