AAM vs Fast Intentions - Need Help With Comparison

F.I. Inc. · 02-22-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

From what I've been able to discern (please correct me where I am wrong or if I am missing something), here are the pros and cons of each kit:

Fast Intentions - Pros
* High quality kit
* Supports big power
* Excellent fit and finish
* Excellent reputation and proven reliability of kit

Fast Intentions - Cons
* Long lead times
* Poor dealer network (Jotech says they won't give them dealer pricing on a kit)

AAM - Pros
* High quality kit
* Supports big power
* Excellent fit and finish
* No modifications needed to install (Is this the same with the FI kit?)
* Maintains OEM easy access to change oil and filter (Is this the same with the FI kit?)
* Kits in stock
* Established dealer network

AAM - Cons
* New kit so reliability still needs to be proven

Is there anything else I'm missing?

From what I can put together, I can get the same or similar quality with the AAM kit without having to wait for the kit to be built and with a better dealer network. Is this correct or am I missing something?

Also, does the FI kit keep the OEM oil filter locations so that one can still easily change your own oil?

Thanks in advance!

Thank you for the thread. Great questions and I feel that you have narrowed it own to your two best choices for twin turbo options. I've read through both pages and the members have spoken. They have all given you great feedback.

I want to nip one thing in the bud right away. We do not have a "poor" dealer network. Daelen from MA Motorsports said it best. We logistically do not like our certified installers overlapping. It's out of respect for their business and territory. A lot of businesses still rely on their local markets. We have a great dealer network! It can always stand to grow and get bigger. Jotech did reach out. We spoke multiple times about selling to them. I never told them that I wouldn't sell to them. They chose not to purchase from us! Out of respect, I won't air as to why.

Currently our closest certified installer to you is in Austin, TX. JMS Racing is one of our first and these guys get it right! They know their stuff and cover a wide range of specialty. Not just Z's.

As for our lead times, everything is built here in house or state side. It takes time and we are very meticulous about what we do.

Please feel free to reach out to us directly. We can discuss options and and answer any questions that you have.

Thank you
-Tony

Mysilverz · 02-22-2016, 08:19 PM

Like I said, you should just call fast intentions.

VSS370z · 02-22-2016, 09:09 PM

As stated before do your research as to what exactly you're looking for and your goals and then go from there. From personal experience one thing is for sure been part of this forum for years is that Fast Intentions has proven themselfs that customer service comes 1st and in my humble opinion they are the best.

SwissCheese · 02-22-2016, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Thank you for the thread. Great questions and I feel that you have narrowed it own to your two best choices for twin turbo options. I've read through both pages and the members have spoken. They have all given you great feedback.

I want to nip one thing in the bud right away. We do not have a "poor" dealer network. Daelen from MA Motorsports said it best. We logistically do not like our certified installers overlapping. It's out of respect for their business and territory. A lot of businesses still rely on their local markets. We have a great dealer network! It can always stand to grow and get bigger. Jotech did reach out. We spoke multiple times about selling to them. I never told them that I wouldn't sell to them. They chose not to purchase from us! Out of respect, I won't air as to why.

Currently our closest certified installer to you is in Austin, TX. JMS Racing is one of our first and these guys get it right! They know their stuff and cover a wide range of specialty. Not just Z's.

As for our lead times, everything is built here in house or state side. It takes time and we are very meticulous about what we do.

Please feel free to reach out to us directly. We can discuss options and and answer any questions that you have.

Thank you
-Tony

Do you guys have any certified installers in the midwest yet (or plan to)?

VIVID · 02-23-2016, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports

We choose to sell the Fast Intentions kit here, they are selective on their dealer network so they do not have overlapping dealers in the same regions. This lets them have a central point of contact with a shop that they trust. This allows them to have full faith in every kit they sell and have installed to stand behind the product.

As for the kit itself, after installing a few of the FI kits I can 100% say this is one of the most well engineered aftermarket automotive kits we have ever had our hands on. You can tell by how each item is laid out, and designed that the utmost care went into every detail. The filter is not in the stock location, but it is very easily accessible.

But a huge reason I love this kit is the support, Kevin and Tony over at FI are some of the best in the business. No question is to small, and every phone call is taken with a great attitude. This to me is worth more than money will ever be in this industry, dealing with a manufacturer that not only cares about their product, but both the end user and installer as much as FI does is a rare find these days. I can not say enough good about those guys.

Take that however you please, but I will recommend FI to anyone that ever asks.

+1 On Daelen's feedback.

Though I have a different application than many of you, FI and MA Motorsports work very well together.

Sean

YzGyz · 02-23-2016, 01:49 PM

Both of these are tied IMO. I think they both are stellar! They both put crazy power for a darn good price. I don't have anything bad to say. I would not hesitate to buy either kits personally. I just wanted to DIY thing so I went BP. Now that I have gone BP, I have learn a lot! If I had to do it again, I would buy the one that your local installer is more familiar with. I would still DIY it in my garage but knowing and having someone that if familiar with the kit can make you or break you. Both have great CS, but if you don't know what is what, how do you get it fixed when you can't tell them the problem? This is where a good shop comes in. They can look at it and Bam, "ohh it's this or that."

YzGyz

xgrudgex · 05-17-2017, 11:36 AM

Lets wake this thread up!!

Question for anyone that has lowered vehicles... Which would be a better choice? or do both cans roughly end up around the same level?

Chuck33079 · 05-17-2017, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xgrudgex

Lets wake this thread up!!

Question for anyone that has lowered vehicles... Which would be a better choice? or do both cans roughly end up around the same level?

Are you asking about the exhausts? This thread is debating the turbo kits.

VitViper · 05-17-2017, 10:45 PM

My only complaint/issue with the F/I kit has been the oil returns. The turbos smoke from time to time as the returns back up. I just tell people that's how you know it's fast, now.

cooltoy · 05-17-2017, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Are you asking about the exhausts? This thread is debating the turbo kits.

Are you sure? Why would we talk about turbos in the Forced Induction section?

shadow85 · 05-19-2017, 11:24 AM

From what I hear both kits are top notch. I chose AAM because, Seb at SZ said their exhaust manifolds was the best. And well who wouldn't want BorgWarner EFR turbos! So I went with AAM for these reasons, oh and because FI don't make RHD kits

Senna-F1 · 08-18-2017, 07:30 PM

There is a HUGE difference in these kits when it comes to installation costs. At least when AAM is doing the install. I've not had any success getting a direct quote from FI, but did get one from my closest dealer, which is further away than I'd like. If I have an issue, I won't be driving back to my installer. Anyway, the quote is $3000-$6000 MORE than what AAM charges to install their kit. AAM has run free installation specials. But even AAMs $2500-$3000 install costs is less than ½ of what I was quoted for an FI install.

F.I. Inc. · 08-19-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1

There is a HUGE difference in these kits when it comes to installation costs. At least when AAM is doing the install. I've not had any success getting a direct quote from FI, but did get one from my closest dealer, which is further away than I'd like. If I have an issue, I won't be driving back to my installer. Anyway, the quote is $3000-$6000 MORE than what AAM charges to install their kit. AAM has run free installation specials. But even AAMs $2500-$3000 install costs is less than ½ of what I was quoted for an FI install.

Senna-F1,

I don't know which dealer you received a quote from. As for receiving a direct quote from us, send us an email and we will give you an itemized breakdown of installation for everything. Email: info@fastintentions.com

If you are going to compare the two kits, it's not really an apples to apples comparison as how the two companies operate. First and foremost, we are way past the stage of giving "free installation specials" on a product that has been tried and proven for 4 years. It was a sales strategy we exercised in the beginning. We have months of back logged work and cannot justifiably give away labor. This is no knock on AAM. They are more than entitled to do things the way they see fit. Both are great TT systems and we are all trying to raise the bar of the Z platform.

Please also keep in consideration when adding up total "out the door" cost, that there are a lot of supporting mods included in our builds. Clutch/Flywheel, Boost Controller, other gauges, Fuel System, Diff Bushings, etc, etc. It's not as cut and dry as just slapping a TT kit on.

We do however offer discounts on package deals. Not advertised, so for those who would like to see an accurate breakdown will need to ask for an estimate via email.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask.

Thanks.
-Tony

02-22-2016, 08:19 PM	#32 (permalink)
Mysilverz Base Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Birminham Al Posts: 205 Drives: 2013 370z silver M6 Rep Power: 9	Like I said, you should just call fast intentions. TerribleONE likes this.

02-23-2016, 01:49 PM	#36 (permalink)
YzGyz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,449 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 62	Both of these are tied IMO. I think they both are stellar! They both put crazy power for a darn good price. I don't have anything bad to say. I would not hesitate to buy either kits personally. I just wanted to DIY thing so I went BP. Now that I have gone BP, I have learn a lot! If I had to do it again, I would buy the one that your local installer is more familiar with. I would still DIY it in my garage but knowing and having someone that if familiar with the kit can make you or break you. Both have great CS, but if you don't know what is what, how do you get it fixed when you can't tell them the problem? This is where a good shop comes in. They can look at it and Bam, "ohh it's this or that." YzGyz F.I. Inc. and zguynate like this. __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...gyzs-turn.html YzGyz

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