AAM vs Fast Intentions - Need Help With Comparison

Hotrodz · 02-19-2016, 07:10 PM

Lol, yes I did and it's a good my fair haired brother. Last year was a blast meeting you and hanging with the FI gang for the week. Looking forward to it again here in a few months.

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jcosta79 · 02-19-2016, 07:30 PM

Ok, it seems clear that FI is the way to go. I guess my next step will be to speak with them directly and formulate a game plan. Thanks everyone for your input! I really appreciate it.

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Spooler · 02-19-2016, 07:47 PM

I would be in line for a kit from FI, just got to many other money pits going on at the moment. This suxs for me.

Hotrodz · 02-19-2016, 08:31 PM

We will be waiting when you are ready to jump in!

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Hotrodz · 02-19-2016, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79

Ok, it seems clear that FI is the way to go. I guess my next step will be to speak with them directly and formulate a game plan. Thanks everyone for your input! I really appreciate it.

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You will not be disappointed!

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VSS370z · 02-19-2016, 08:34 PM

Since Fast Intentions came around its been my one stop shop to build the car like i have wanted. You can say i am also a fanboy. Their exhaust and twin turbo kit are top of the line products and their customer service have always been 2nd to none. Very proud to still be the only one to have their kit in P.R. Call them you won't regret it!

axmea? · 02-19-2016, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79

* Poor dealer network (Jotech says they won't give them dealer pricing on a kit)

Also, does the FI kit keep the OEM oil filter locations so that one can still easily change your own oil?

Simply because Jotech was not selected does not mean FI has poor dealer network. Tony's made it clear that he was going to be selective on who carries his product. Not a knock on Jotech. Just relaying a conscious business decision.

Since you are already in Texas, why not go for AAM? Jotech is close by and will provide the support you are looking for. That is unless you can find a shop that carries FI and can service your vehicle. I'm sure there is one in DFW.

Strange question on the OEM oil filter location btw.

Chuy · 02-19-2016, 09:42 PM

FI has a huge following, so there will be more people voting for them. I vote for the AAM kit just looking at what parts are what and the ease of installation from my buddies.

Chuck33079 · 02-19-2016, 09:42 PM

Edit - If Tony's cool with it than so am I.

tonyHTX · 02-19-2016, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Edit - If Tony's cool with it than so am I.

Not entirely true - we just were one of the first to install the kit outside of AAM whom never encountered the issue which we were challenged with, thus we took it upon ourselves to find a solution on our own. We did report our findings/adjustments to AAM in the end, whether or not changes were implemented to subsequent kits I do not know.

When I was purchasing my setup FI didn't have a kit for the G and wouldn't sell me one, on the other hand AAM allowed for my car being a test mule which worked out for me in the end.

I think the main difference between the kits are the turbos. The EFR turbos on the AAM kit are internally gated and also have recirculated bovs. This makes install slightly simpler, but makes maintenance of said parts more difficult. Also since the bovs don't vent to atmosphere the signature turbo purge sound is not there unless dual port valves are installed (this requires notching the passenger side motor bracket). Since FI uses external wastegates and vta bovs maintenance of those parts (if any) should be easier and of course the purge sound is there!

Another difference is the stock crash bar can be used with the AAM kit, but FI does offer a crashbar of their own (which looks quite sexy

).

I think your best bet is to contact both manufacturers and compare all facets from design, price, install difficulty, maintenance, and customer service.

Jotech is a standup place and regardless of which kit you choose I'm sure the end result will be many smiles per hour!

Chuck33079 · 02-19-2016, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyHTX

Not entirely true - we just were one of the first to install the kit outside of AAM whom never encountered the issue which we were challenged with, thus we took it upon ourselves to find a solution on our own. We did report our findings/adjustments to AAM in the end, whether or not changes were implemented to subsequent kits I do not know.

When I was purchasing my setup FI didn't have a kit for the G and wouldn't sell me one, on the other hand AAM allowed for my car being a test mule which worked out for me in the end.

I think the main difference between the kits are the turbos. The EFR turbos on the AAM kit are internally gated and also have recirculated bovs. This makes install slightly simpler, but makes maintenance of said parts more difficult. Also since the bovs don't vent to atmosphere the signature turbo purge sound is not there unless dual port valves are installed (this requires notching the passenger side motor mount). Since FI uses external wastegates and vta bovs maintenance of those parts (if any) should be easier and of course the purge sound is there!

Another difference is the stock crash bar can be used with the AAM kit, but FI does offer a crashbar of their own (which looks quite sexy

).

I think your best bet is to contact both manufacturers and compare all facets from design, price, install difficulty, maintenance, and customer service.

Jotech is a standup place and regardless of which kit you choose I'm sure the end result will be many smiles per hour!

Hey, if you're cool with it then great. I'm of a mind that the consumer shouldn't have to reengineer something that's sold as bolt-on. At the end of the day, you've got a monster of a car. I just think they should have brought some solutions to the table for you.

tonyHTX · 02-19-2016, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Hey, if you're cool with it then great. I'm of a mind that the consumer shouldn't have to reengineer something that's sold as bolt-on. At the end of the day, you've got a monster of a car. I just think they should have brought some solutions to the table for you.

But you have to keep in mind at the time of my purchase the kit had never been fitted to my vehicle before. We were allowed to take the project on knowing there might be tweaks needed and agreed to report back our results. AAM did try to support us but, again, they never encountered the issue before. I appreciate the opportunity AAM gave us and the end result.

On the other hand, the situation we encountered is probably one of the underlying reasons why Tony wouldn't sell me an FI kit and I respect that decision.

Chuck33079 · 02-20-2016, 12:08 AM

Fair enough. You've got a hell of a car. I just didn't realize it was so different that you need a scavenge pump when a z does not. Not sure how, but fair enough. Statement retracted.

I think we can both agree we're lucky that a certain local shop can figure out the kinks in a build like that. That's why they're on my speed dial.

1cleanZ · 02-20-2016, 08:32 AM

First, how is having an elite exclusive dealer network a bad thing? You have certified installers and dealers that know the product inside and out, vs the alternative, whoring and discounting "special offers" and discounts every chance you can with any pickup online store possible to advertise for them (not mentioning any names, but I think you can get the hint)

As for the systems themselves, they actually are both extremely different. Internal vs external optional waste gates, completely different turbos, sizing of the intercooler, etc

Honestly the ONLY pro to the AAM kit would be retaining the oem crash bar(to those who that's important to), but FI (as detail oriented as they are) made an after market tow hook bar from roll cage tubing, probably just as, if not stronger then you OEM crash bar.

Last but not least, take a CLOSE look at all the actual craftsmanship between the two kits from current customers review photos. You'll see a large difference between the quality of bends, welds, and attention to detail between the two.

FI cons? = zero, maybe that they don't give discounts for advertising purposes, because they have no reason to! The kit sells itself. No discounts, undercutting, marketing gimmicks needed. You get what you paid for, period.

zguynate · 02-20-2016, 10:10 AM

It's going to be hard to get a real comparison here since a good comparison will come from people who have experience with both kits, which will probably only come from people in shops.

From what I have seen, both the FI kit and AAM kit are great kits. I personally own the AAM kit and from a hardware standpoint, the kit is awesome. I haven't installed it yet, so I don't have anything first hand to say about performance. The AAM kit comes out of the box good for over 700whp with the right fuel upgrades. I don't know if you have to buy a turbo upgrade to reach that power with the FI kit. I personally like the idea of the internally gated wastegates and "BOV" on the EFR turbos. It makes plumbing easy and I'm a "sleeper" fan.

Fast Intentions has a huge following here on the forums therefore you will get a lot of people saying they prefer Fast Intentions. They do have great products, so that's for good reason. However, AAM seems to be the red headed step child here. People will say the FI kit is better and not really know much about the AAM kit. I have had good experiences with AAM as a company and their products. The best 350z exhaust is the AAM single IMO, which is why I modified one to fit my 370z. What I'm saying is AAM offers some great products and it's easy to overlook when the forum favorite is FI.

Based off of my observations only (note not experience because I can't comment on both) I don't think it's really a matter of which kit is better per se, but more of which you prefer. Read up on FI and AAM builds and see what you personally like and dislike about both kits. If you want a BOV, FI will probably be a better buy for you. If you like sleeper and OEM fit, AAM is a good choice. I'm pretty sure if you talk with owners who actually own their respective kits, they will all tell you they love them. You may have to seek out the AAM owners as there aren't as many as FI owners, but if you're going to be making the plunge and are on the fence, doing your diligent research on each will benefit you.

02-19-2016, 07:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	Lol, yes I did and it's a good my fair haired brother. Last year was a blast meeting you and hanging with the FI gang for the week. Looking forward to it again here in a few months. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk GaleForce and Rusty like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

02-19-2016, 07:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 14	Ok, it seems clear that FI is the way to go. I guess my next step will be to speak with them directly and formulate a game plan. Thanks everyone for your input! I really appreciate it. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk hjo1078, Rusty and Hotrodz like this. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

02-19-2016, 07:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,560 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	I would be in line for a kit from FI, just got to many other money pits going on at the moment. This suxs for me. Hotrodz likes this.

02-19-2016, 08:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	We will be waiting when you are ready to jump in! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

02-19-2016, 08:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
VSS370z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 380 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 13	Since Fast Intentions came around its been my one stop shop to build the car like i have wanted. You can say i am also a fanboy. Their exhaust and twin turbo kit are top of the line products and their customer service have always been 2nd to none. Very proud to still be the only one to have their kit in P.R. Call them you won't regret it! TerribleONE likes this.

02-19-2016, 09:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
Chuy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 474 Drives: 2015 NISMO Rep Power: 15	FI has a huge following, so there will be more people voting for them. I vote for the AAM kit just looking at what parts are what and the ease of installation from my buddies. zguynate likes this. __________________ Miko 2015 Nismo Tech: nothing RIP Ginger 2009 370Z Sport Touring

02-19-2016, 09:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	AAM vs Fast Intentions - Need Help With Comparison Edit - If Tony's cool with it than so am I. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent Last edited by Chuck33079; 02-20-2016 at 12:09 AM.

02-20-2016, 12:08 AM	#28 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Fair enough. You've got a hell of a car. I just didn't realize it was so different that you need a scavenge pump when a z does not. Not sure how, but fair enough. Statement retracted. I think we can both agree we're lucky that a certain local shop can figure out the kinks in a build like that. That's why they're on my speed dial. YzGyz and tonyHTX like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-20-2016, 08:32 AM	#29 (permalink)
1cleanZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 1,132 Drives: '09 PW Nismo Rep Power: 20	First, how is having an elite exclusive dealer network a bad thing? You have certified installers and dealers that know the product inside and out, vs the alternative, whoring and discounting "special offers" and discounts every chance you can with any pickup online store possible to advertise for them (not mentioning any names, but I think you can get the hint) As for the systems themselves, they actually are both extremely different. Internal vs external optional waste gates, completely different turbos, sizing of the intercooler, etc Honestly the ONLY pro to the AAM kit would be retaining the oem crash bar(to those who that's important to), but FI (as detail oriented as they are) made an after market tow hook bar from roll cage tubing, probably just as, if not stronger then you OEM crash bar. Last but not least, take a CLOSE look at all the actual craftsmanship between the two kits from current customers review photos. You'll see a large difference between the quality of bends, welds, and attention to detail between the two. FI cons? = zero, maybe that they don't give discounts for advertising purposes, because they have no reason to! The kit sells itself. No discounts, undercutting, marketing gimmicks needed. You get what you paid for, period. TerribleONE, VSS370z, Sales@F.I. Inc. and 1 others like this. __________________ 2009 PW Nismo #0021 -My Built Progress >>1cleanG to 1cleanZ<< Team NextLevel Last edited by 1cleanZ; 02-22-2016 at 07:09 PM.

02-20-2016, 10:10 AM	#30 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,053 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 73	It's going to be hard to get a real comparison here since a good comparison will come from people who have experience with both kits, which will probably only come from people in shops. From what I have seen, both the FI kit and AAM kit are great kits. I personally own the AAM kit and from a hardware standpoint, the kit is awesome. I haven't installed it yet, so I don't have anything first hand to say about performance. The AAM kit comes out of the box good for over 700whp with the right fuel upgrades. I don't know if you have to buy a turbo upgrade to reach that power with the FI kit. I personally like the idea of the internally gated wastegates and "BOV" on the EFR turbos. It makes plumbing easy and I'm a "sleeper" fan. Fast Intentions has a huge following here on the forums therefore you will get a lot of people saying they prefer Fast Intentions. They do have great products, so that's for good reason. However, AAM seems to be the red headed step child here. People will say the FI kit is better and not really know much about the AAM kit. I have had good experiences with AAM as a company and their products. The best 350z exhaust is the AAM single IMO, which is why I modified one to fit my 370z. What I'm saying is AAM offers some great products and it's easy to overlook when the forum favorite is FI. Based off of my observations only (note not experience because I can't comment on both) I don't think it's really a matter of which kit is better per se, but more of which you prefer. Read up on FI and AAM builds and see what you personally like and dislike about both kits. If you want a BOV, FI will probably be a better buy for you. If you like sleeper and OEM fit, AAM is a good choice. I'm pretty sure if you talk with owners who actually own their respective kits, they will all tell you they love them. You may have to seek out the AAM owners as there aren't as many as FI owners, but if you're going to be making the plunge and are on the fence, doing your diligent research on each will benefit you. axmea?, Stright_Drop, aljos and 1 others like this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

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