AAM vs Fast Intentions - Need Help With Comparison

jcosta79 · 02-19-2016, 03:49 PM

From what I've been able to discern (please correct me where I am wrong or if I am missing something), here are the pros and cons of each kit:

Fast Intentions - Pros
* High quality kit
* Supports big power
* Excellent fit and finish
* Excellent reputation and proven reliability of kit

Fast Intentions - Cons
* Long lead times
* Poor dealer network (Jotech says they won't give them dealer pricing on a kit)

AAM - Pros
* High quality kit
* Supports big power
* Excellent fit and finish
* No modifications needed to install (Is this the same with the FI kit?)
* Maintains OEM easy access to change oil and filter (Is this the same with the FI kit?)
* Kits in stock
* Established dealer network

AAM - Cons
* New kit so reliability still needs to be proven

Is there anything else I'm missing?

From what I can put together, I can get the same or similar quality with the AAM kit without having to wait for the kit to be built and with a better dealer network. Is this correct or am I missing something?

Also, does the FI kit keep the OEM oil filter locations so that one can still easily change your own oil?

Thanks in advance!

TerribleONE · 02-19-2016, 03:58 PM

Did you even get quoted a lead time from FI?

Your forgot the following Fast Intentions pros

Best customer service in this industry (IMO)
More real world testing
More independent dynos
No permanent modifications necessary.
Changing the oil is still not a issue

Cons
Cant think of any lol

jcosta79 · 02-19-2016, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

Did you even get quoted a lead time from FI?

Your forgot the following Fast Intentions pros

Best customer service in this industry (IMO)
More real world testing
More independent dynos
No permanent modifications necessary.
Changing the oil is still not a issue

Cons
Cant think of any lol

Lead time is not so much of an issue. What is the average lead time? I thought it was 2 months from all the other threads. The biggest issue for me is dealer network. My local installer really doesn't want to use them because they won't get dealer pricing. The relationship I have with my installer is important because if anything goes wrong, I'm taking my car back to them and not to the maker of the kit.

How have others gotten around this? Do they just buy the kit directly from FI and take it to their installer? (This doesn't make for a happy installer though)

MAMotorsports · 02-19-2016, 04:04 PM

We choose to sell the Fast Intentions kit here, they are selective on their dealer network so they do not have overlapping dealers in the same regions. This lets them have a central point of contact with a shop that they trust. This allows them to have full faith in every kit they sell and have installed to stand behind the product.

As for the kit itself, after installing a few of the FI kits I can 100% say this is one of the most well engineered aftermarket automotive kits we have ever had our hands on. You can tell by how each item is laid out, and designed that the utmost care went into every detail. The filter is not in the stock location, but it is very easily accessible.

But a huge reason I love this kit is the support, Kevin and Tony over at FI are some of the best in the business. No question is to small, and every phone call is taken with a great attitude. This to me is worth more than money will ever be in this industry, dealing with a manufacturer that not only cares about their product, but both the end user and installer as much as FI does is a rare find these days. I can not say enough good about those guys.

Take that however you please, but I will recommend FI to anyone that ever asks.

jcosta79 · 02-19-2016, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAMotorsports

We choose to sell the Fast Intentions kit here, they are selective on their dealer network so they do not have overlapping dealers in the same regions. This lets them have a central point of contact with a shop that they trust. This allows them to have full faith in every kit they sell and have installed to stand behind the product.

As for the kit itself, after installing a few of the FI kits I can 100% say this is one of the most well engineered aftermarket automotive kits we have ever had our hands on. You can tell by how each item is laid out, and designed that the utmost care went into every detail. The filter is not in the stock location, but it is very easily accessible.

But a huge reason I love this kit is the support, Kevin and Tony over at FI are some of the best in the business. No question is to small, and every phone call is taken with a great attitude. This to me is worth more than money will ever be in this industry, dealing with a manufacturer that not only cares about their product, but both the end user and installer as much as FI does is a rare find these days. I can not say enough good about those guys.

Take that however you please, but I will recommend FI to anyone that ever asks.

Hmmm... Good points. Do you know who their dealer is in the Dallas, TX area?

Johnny6.1 · 02-19-2016, 04:09 PM

From what I can discern both companies make a quality kit. In that case I would recommend doing more research on the turbos themselves. I believe AAM uses the EFR turbo which I have heard great things about. I think and correct me if I'm wrong but FI uses the greddy turbos.

Look into which turbo better suits ur needs and wants and go from there

TerribleONE · 02-19-2016, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79

Lead time is not so much of an issue. What is the average lead time? I thought it was 2 months from all the other threads. The biggest issue for me is dealer network. My local installer really doesn't want to use them because they won't get dealer pricing. The relationship I have with my installer is important because if anything goes wrong, I'm taking my car back to them and not to the maker of the kit.

How have others gotten around this? Do they just buy the kit directly from FI and take it to their installer? (This doesn't make for a happy installer though)

The 8-12 week lead time is for their exhausts. I don't believe any TT lead times have been quoted anywhere on the forum.

Also, FI is very picky with who they work with because at the end of the day they are also putting their name on the line if something goes wrong. Your installer should still be happy they are getting the business even if you buy the kit from FI directly as that is as good amount of billable labor IMO

EVOHUNTER · 02-19-2016, 04:20 PM

You cant go wrong with either, both amazing kits!

jcosta79 · 02-19-2016, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

The 8-12 week lead time is for their exhausts. I don't believe any TT lead times have been quoted anywhere on the forum.

Also, FI is very picky with who they work with because at the end of the day they are also putting their name on the line if something goes wrong. Your installer should still be happy they are getting the business even if you buy the kit from FI directly as that is as good amount of billable labor IMO

True. Do you know who their dealer is for the Dallas, TX area?

TerribleONE · 02-19-2016, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny6.1

From what I can discern both companies make a quality kit. In that case I would recommend doing more research on the turbos themselves. I believe AAM uses the EFR turbo which I have heard great things about. I think and correct me if I'm wrong but FI uses the greddy turbos.

Look into which turbo better suits ur needs and wants and go from there

FI uses garrett turbos with tial housings in their stage one and the new "xonarotor" HTA-2828 / 3579 turbos on their stage 2-3 kits.

MAMotorsports · 02-19-2016, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79

Hmmm... Good points. Do you know who their dealer is in the Dallas, TX area?

I do not off the top of my head, but shoot them a call and chat. I promise you will not regret that call.

If you are willing to ship the car, would be more than happy to chat with you. We have at least one car up here from TX right now actually.

Hotrodz · 02-19-2016, 04:45 PM

I just going to start with I'm a FI fan boy...that is kind of funny because I'm and old Black guy! I digress...outside of TerribleONE I have the longest running and most miles on the FI kit and it seems to get better with time. I have had zero issues with their components. No oil or boost leaks. I know traveling to LA just to visit FI might not work for you but if can do it, you will buy the kit on the spot. As Tony proudly proclaims no details were to small to go unnoticed. Why visit because you can see the product first hand and get as much detail as you dare to digest from not only Tony but the man behind the engineering, Tony's partner Dan or the Wizard of Oz as I have nick named him. The kit is flawless and desinged to be part of the engine not just a bolt on. Every part works with engine to get the best performance possible.

Back to the shop itself...it freaking immaculate. Tony and staff keep the place as if it were a show room. They are ocd about cleanliness and keeping everything in order.

To pile on Daelen's points. FI has never been in the game to sale the most kits on the market, their goal is to sale the best kit on the market at a fair price and to choose dealer as was stated above.

I don't have anything negative to say about AAM as I have purchased several items from them in the past and their customers service was very good.....but Tony, Dan, Kevin and the list goes on are now part of my extended family and that's worth way more than their kit. So come join our family!

Lol..no this is not a paid advertisement...I got a T-shirt for my purchase!

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TerribleONE · 02-19-2016, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I just going to start with I'm a FI fan boy...that is kind of funny because I'm and old Black guy! I digress...outside of TerribleONE I have the longest running and most miles on the FI kit and it seems to get better with time. I have had zero issues with their components. No oil or boost leaks. I know traveling to LA just to visit FI might not work for you but if can do it, you will buy the kit on the spot. As Tony proudly proclaims no details were to small to go unnoticed. Why visit because you can see the product first hand and get as much detail as you dare to digest from not only Tony but the man behind the engineering, Tony's partner Dan or the Wizard of Oz as I have nick named him. The kit is flawless and desinged to be part of the engine not just a bolt on. Every part works with engine to get the best performance possible.

Back to the shop itself...it freaking immaculate. Tony and staff keep the place as if it were a show room. They are ocd about cleanliness and keeping everything in order.

To pile on Daelen's points. FI has never been in the game to sale the most kits on the market, their goal is to sale the best kit on the market at a fair price and to choose dealer as was stated above.

I don't have anything negative to say about AAM as I have purchased several items from them in the past and their customers service was very good.....but Tony, Dan, Kevin and the list goes on are now part of my extended family and that's worth way more than their kit. So come join our family!

Lol..no this is not a paid advertisement...I got a T-shirt for my purchase!

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

Well said. F.I. FTMFW

Mysilverz · 02-19-2016, 05:25 PM

You should just call fast intentions and talk with them for a bit. They would be more than happy to speak with you.

Rusty · 02-19-2016, 06:53 PM

Hey Bob. You're not old, just look that way.

You left me an opening, so I had to take it.

When I got my full exhaust from FI. I had a couple of phone calls to Tony. He answered every question. And I met Tony and the crew at ZDayZ. Nice group.

02-19-2016, 03:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 14	AAM vs Fast Intentions - Need Help With Comparison From what I've been able to discern (please correct me where I am wrong or if I am missing something), here are the pros and cons of each kit: Fast Intentions - Pros * High quality kit * Supports big power * Excellent fit and finish * Excellent reputation and proven reliability of kit Fast Intentions - Cons * Long lead times * Poor dealer network (Jotech says they won't give them dealer pricing on a kit) AAM - Pros * High quality kit * Supports big power * Excellent fit and finish * No modifications needed to install (Is this the same with the FI kit?) * Maintains OEM easy access to change oil and filter (Is this the same with the FI kit?) * Kits in stock * Established dealer network AAM - Cons * New kit so reliability still needs to be proven Is there anything else I'm missing? From what I can put together, I can get the same or similar quality with the AAM kit without having to wait for the kit to be built and with a better dealer network. Is this correct or am I missing something? Also, does the FI kit keep the OEM oil filter locations so that one can still easily change your own oil? Thanks in advance! __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

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TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5850	Did you even get quoted a lead time from FI? Your forgot the following Fast Intentions pros Best customer service in this industry (IMO) More real world testing More independent dynos No permanent modifications necessary. Changing the oil is still not a issue Cons Cant think of any lol 1cleanZ, hjo1078, FPenvy and 6 others like this. __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

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MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 16	We choose to sell the Fast Intentions kit here, they are selective on their dealer network so they do not have overlapping dealers in the same regions. This lets them have a central point of contact with a shop that they trust. This allows them to have full faith in every kit they sell and have installed to stand behind the product. As for the kit itself, after installing a few of the FI kits I can 100% say this is one of the most well engineered aftermarket automotive kits we have ever had our hands on. You can tell by how each item is laid out, and designed that the utmost care went into every detail. The filter is not in the stock location, but it is very easily accessible. But a huge reason I love this kit is the support, Kevin and Tony over at FI are some of the best in the business. No question is to small, and every phone call is taken with a great attitude. This to me is worth more than money will ever be in this industry, dealing with a manufacturer that not only cares about their product, but both the end user and installer as much as FI does is a rare find these days. I can not say enough good about those guys. Take that however you please, but I will recommend FI to anyone that ever asks. TerribleONE, FPenvy, GaleForce and 7 others like this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

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Johnny6.1 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Nor Cal Age: 39 Posts: 78 Drives: 2015 370z Rep Power: 10	From what I can discern both companies make a quality kit. In that case I would recommend doing more research on the turbos themselves. I believe AAM uses the EFR turbo which I have heard great things about. I think and correct me if I'm wrong but FI uses the greddy turbos. Look into which turbo better suits ur needs and wants and go from there EVOHUNTER likes this.

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EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 14	You cant go wrong with either, both amazing kits! __________________

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Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	I just going to start with I'm a FI fan boy...that is kind of funny because I'm and old Black guy! I digress...outside of TerribleONE I have the longest running and most miles on the FI kit and it seems to get better with time. I have had zero issues with their components. No oil or boost leaks. I know traveling to LA just to visit FI might not work for you but if can do it, you will buy the kit on the spot. As Tony proudly proclaims no details were to small to go unnoticed. Why visit because you can see the product first hand and get as much detail as you dare to digest from not only Tony but the man behind the engineering, Tony's partner Dan or the Wizard of Oz as I have nick named him. The kit is flawless and desinged to be part of the engine not just a bolt on. Every part works with engine to get the best performance possible. Back to the shop itself...it freaking immaculate. Tony and staff keep the place as if it were a show room. They are ocd about cleanliness and keeping everything in order. To pile on Daelen's points. FI has never been in the game to sale the most kits on the market, their goal is to sale the best kit on the market at a fair price and to choose dealer as was stated above. I don't have anything negative to say about AAM as I have purchased several items from them in the past and their customers service was very good.....but Tony, Dan, Kevin and the list goes on are now part of my extended family and that's worth way more than their kit. So come join our family! Lol..no this is not a paid advertisement...I got a T-shirt for my purchase! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk TerribleONE, hjo1078, GaleForce and 7 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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Mysilverz Base Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Birminham Al Posts: 205 Drives: 2013 370z silver M6 Rep Power: 9	You should just call fast intentions and talk with them for a bit. They would be more than happy to speak with you.

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