Topgunz - air to air upgrade

Optimiser · 01-24-2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

I have a lot of guys asking questions that were posted in a previous thread when i began making this kit for myself. I keep telling them to imagine all the air coming out of the exhaust at 7500rpms. All of that air has to come into the engine and pass through. THIS. And this is trying to cool it all when it is sitting in a manifold that can fry an egg.

This just makes Stillens sales blurb and diagrams such a joke going on about "cool air" with their after cooler and heat soak with a traditional front mounted intercooler, etc, etc. If you haven't read it you should. So opposite to reality and such BS!

BOLIO 671 · 01-25-2017, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

I have a lot of guys asking questions that were posted in a previous thread when i began making this kit for myself. I keep telling them to imagine all the air coming out of the exhaust at 7500rpms. All of that air has to come into the engine and pass through. THIS. And this is trying to cool it all when it is sitting in a manifold that can fry an egg.

This is so true...pics don't do it justice....when I saw how much room that thing took up in the manifold and how much free air is now available with it gone...let's just say restrictive is an understatement.....I don't know how the thing doesn't choke up....it's design makes the so called "long plenum runners" on Stillens Manifold useless.

mikey1600 · 01-24-2017, 02:23 PM

Okay looking to pull the trigger on this in next couple weeks.

Haven't gone through the whole thread yet, was previously keeping up but weeks and weeks ago.

Is anyone running Upgraded trim supercharger + E85 + retuned on UpRev still on this kit? These were my plans.

I've had a custom tune done with the current standard 9psi kit, would it be suitable to drive very sedately to a tuner after installing A2A kit?

TopgunZ · 01-24-2017, 02:46 PM

If you stay with uprev and have 9psi pulley with si impeller you will need the buy the GT Mafs or they will max out. So that leaves you with either buying the mafs or buying ecutek with the map sensor.

Getting it to the tuner is iffy. If he is close enough it might be doable. But towing it there is probably a better idea. A trailer from Uhaul is like $40 for the day.

ChaseZ · 01-24-2017, 07:26 PM

You guys are tee'ing the line for your boost gauge off the line from the manifold to BOV/BPV right?

Not sure if this gauge I got is fubar or not.

JWillis72 · 01-24-2017, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ

You guys are tee'ing the line for your boost gauge off the line from the manifold to BOV/BPV right?

Not sure if this gauge I got is fubar or not.

Mine is teed off right off after the manifold.

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ChaseZ · 01-24-2017, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

Mine is teed off right off after the manifold.

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Thanks, that's exactly where mine is. Gauge fubar, problem solved

JWillis72 · 01-24-2017, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ

Thanks, that's exactly where mine is. Gauge fubar, problem solved

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JWillis72 · 01-24-2017, 08:44 PM

I've had bad luck with gauges, it's frustrating.

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dboi941 · 01-24-2017, 09:40 PM

I used PLX Boost gauge and had no problem with it.

TopgunZ · 01-25-2017, 07:35 AM

They really did design this kit to max out at that 8psi mark where the intake temps are still somewhat manageable by this thing. I can see why they wouldn't sell the 9psi pulley without a warranty waiver.

nic370 · 01-25-2017, 11:12 AM

Hit my first stumbling block today
My tunner has done all the partial throttle stuff which went fine.
When he reached anywhere near 3/4000 rpm he says he's experiencing a lot of knock and the car pulls a shed load of timing and the ecu drops load he can't figure out what's doing it
He can hear nothing in the det cans so suspects false knock I wondering if a pipe is touching somewhere giving me vibration or something.
He's pulled it off the dyno for now for ecutek to check the software but suspects it's hardware
Anyone else had issues like this
I'm sure I read a thred in here about a guy with this issue that tried everything to solve the knock sensor going mad

edit
just spoke with topz my tial is on wrong
hopefullly this was the issue and it hasnt done any damage else ill be going forged

woo · 01-25-2017, 05:16 PM

QUOTE"just spoke with topz my tial is on wrong "

hey topunz....i dont feel so bad or STUPID now!!!!!!

nic370 · 01-26-2017, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by woo

QUOTE"just spoke with topz my tial is on wrong "

hey topunz....i dont feel so bad or STUPID now!!!!!!

I dont know if it was you who posted up about your tial with a picture
But thank you you have possible saved me a lot of grief
I realy hope this is the issue

Even if it isn't it wasn't right so thanks

bewhitey · 01-31-2017, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nic370

Hit my first stumbling block today
My tunner has done all the partial throttle stuff which went fine.
When he reached anywhere near 3/4000 rpm he says he's experiencing a lot of knock and the car pulls a shed load of timing and the ecu drops load he can't figure out what's doing it
He can hear nothing in the det cans so suspects false knock I wondering if a pipe is touching somewhere giving me vibration or something.
He's pulled it off the dyno for now for ecutek to check the software but suspects it's hardware
Anyone else had issues like this
I'm sure I read a thred in here about a guy with this issue that tried everything to solve the knock sensor going mad

edit
just spoke with topz my tial is on wrong
hopefullly this was the issue and it hasnt done any damage else ill be going forged

Can you post a pic of the correct way to put your tial on? VS the way you used to have it on... I was confused on this too. I found this webpage that said it can go two ways
TiAL QRJ BOV review | TimmySpec Racing Products

this is the way I have mine setup now, with the valve towards the pressurized source, other people have it with the valve facing the exhaust/blow off side

01-24-2017, 02:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	If you stay with uprev and have 9psi pulley with si impeller you will need the buy the GT Mafs or they will max out. So that leaves you with either buying the mafs or buying ecutek with the map sensor. Getting it to the tuner is iffy. If he is close enough it might be doable. But towing it there is probably a better idea. A trailer from Uhaul is like $40 for the day. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

01-25-2017, 07:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	They really did design this kit to max out at that 8psi mark where the intake temps are still somewhat manageable by this thing. I can see why they wouldn't sell the 9psi pulley without a warranty waiver. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

01-25-2017, 11:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
nic370 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: uk Posts: 187 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 11	Hit my first stumbling block today My tunner has done all the partial throttle stuff which went fine. When he reached anywhere near 3/4000 rpm he says he's experiencing a lot of knock and the car pulls a shed load of timing and the ecu drops load he can't figure out what's doing it He can hear nothing in the det cans so suspects false knock I wondering if a pipe is touching somewhere giving me vibration or something. He's pulled it off the dyno for now for ecutek to check the software but suspects it's hardware Anyone else had issues like this I'm sure I read a thred in here about a guy with this issue that tried everything to solve the knock sensor going mad edit just spoke with topz my tial is on wrong hopefullly this was the issue and it hasnt done any damage else ill be going forged Last edited by nic370; 01-25-2017 at 03:35 PM.

01-25-2017, 05:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
woo Base Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: lowcountry,sc Posts: 37 Drives: 16 white sport A7 Rep Power: 9	QUOTE"just spoke with topz my tial is on wrong " hey topunz....i dont feel so bad or STUPID now!!!!!! __________________ 2016 pearl white sport tech, air2air and stillen supercharger

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01-24-2017, 02:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
mikey1600 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 503 Drives: MY11 370z Black Rep Power: 17	Okay looking to pull the trigger on this in next couple weeks. Haven't gone through the whole thread yet, was previously keeping up but weeks and weeks ago. Is anyone running Upgraded trim supercharger + E85 + retuned on UpRev still on this kit? These were my plans. I've had a custom tune done with the current standard 9psi kit, would it be suitable to drive very sedately to a tuner after installing A2A kit?

01-24-2017, 07:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94684	You guys are tee'ing the line for your boost gauge off the line from the manifold to BOV/BPV right? Not sure if this gauge I got is fubar or not.

01-24-2017, 08:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I've had bad luck with gauges, it's frustrating. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-24-2017, 09:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
dboi941 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Bradenton, FL Age: 43 Posts: 24 Drives: 2016 370z Nismo Rep Power: 10	I used PLX Boost gauge and had no problem with it.

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