Topgunz - air to air upgrade

jwick · 04-29-2016, 07:51 AM

I'm still confused how you ran out of 1000IDs at less than 550whp. Some of the turbo guys are pushing past 700who on 1000IDs.

TopgunZ · 04-29-2016, 08:07 AM

My tuner said it is the pump that can't keep up.

Does the walbro E85 450 fit in the pump assembly? Anyone have one in?

BOLIO 671 · 04-29-2016, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Everything was basically the same. My AFR's were deep into the 12's after 7K though. I will log intake temps when it stops raining here. Should be this weekend.

Im very curious to see what the other two guys with the kit will make. I am a bit confused by my tuner as he should have told me last time that we wont be able to go safely to redline even if I get the belt to stop slipping. Which I did by purchasing a new one. My old one lost a couple of ribs from riding the pulley too far to the inside. This new one held up good.

Deep into the 12's AFR up top past 7K.....

Isn't that a bit lean for F.I. and risky or is it OK to be at with E85? Are u on UpRev or EcuTek?

***I ask about E85 as its not available where I am from...Highest grade pump is 91 and highest grade available here is MS109 from VP.

TopgunZ · 04-29-2016, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

Deep into the 12's AFR up top past 7K.....

Isn't that a bit lean for F.I. and risky or is it OK to be at with E85? Are u on UpRev or EcuTek?

***I ask about E85 as its not available where I am from...Highest grade pump is 91 and highest grade available here is MS109 from VP.

E85's resistance to knock is insane. It isn't ideal but we didn't pick up any knock at all. You probably can't do that with pump gas.

You will have plenty of fuel with 91. E85 requires about 30% more than pump gas.

And im on Uprev. My tuner told me to also switch to Ecutek..lol..

TBatt · 04-29-2016, 09:45 AM

Stillen SC kit due to arrive next Tuesday! TopgunZ, is my kit still on track for early June?

Pauly Z · 04-29-2016, 09:53 AM

Update...so Seb says the cruising logs look great. We are troubleshooting an issue where the transmission gets hung up and doesn't want to shift in 3rd or 4th gear between 3-4k rpm.

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TopgunZ · 04-29-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt

Stillen SC kit due to arrive next Tuesday! TopgunZ, is my kit still on track for early June?

Yes sir.

bewhitey · 04-30-2016, 01:48 AM

Could we just cut one of these puppies into the charge pipe and keep the water to air setup alive?

frozenboost seems to be all about water to air intercoolers

TopgunZ · 04-30-2016, 01:24 PM

Will never fit plus your mafs will still be pre charger.

bewhitey · 04-30-2016, 02:29 PM

Sawzall a hole in the hood and weld a hood scoop on! I thought this was uhmareca! Then put a gol dern maf sensor behind it. Bewhitey water to air kit! comes with 100mph duct tape

(that would probably be a fun project)

StillenZ84 · 04-30-2016, 09:43 PM

Update- So today we were still detecting knock. Seb sent me a tune with only 17 deg advanced WOT and it still knocked. He said that this pretty much confirmed that it was detecting false knock. He said there is absolutely no way it would be knocking on e85 and only 17 deg advanced. He plans on desensitizing my knock sensor and we will try again. Seb said this sometimes happens to supercharged Zs that he has tuned because the blower is attached to the engine and it detects its vibration. On a positive note, I did hit 11 psi today!

Pauly Z · 04-30-2016, 10:19 PM

Yeah Seb said he has never seen my issue. With the changed torque values in the tune the transmission would get hung up between 3-4k rpms and wouldn't shift. He changed the torque values back to stock and it shifts fine.

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StillenZ84 · 04-30-2016, 10:22 PM

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Yeah Seb said he has never seen my issue. With the changed torque values in the tune the transmission would get hung up between 3-4k rpms and wouldn't shift. He changed the torque values back to stock and it shifts fine.

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I wonder if he was going off of my built trans torque values on yours. Is your stock? At first mine was doing the exact same thing and would take around 15-20 seconds to shift. I would have to let off the pedal a little and it would shift. He has it dialed in perfect now.

Pauly Z · 04-30-2016, 10:28 PM

That's exactly what mine is doing. It only does it in 3rd or 4th gear

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Pauly Z · 04-30-2016, 10:31 PM

Oh and yes it is stock.

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04-29-2016, 07:51 AM	#361 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465056	I'm still confused how you ran out of 1000IDs at less than 550whp. Some of the turbo guys are pushing past 700who on 1000IDs. jaytirbhaw likes this. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

04-29-2016, 08:07 AM	#362 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	My tuner said it is the pump that can't keep up. Does the walbro E85 450 fit in the pump assembly? Anyone have one in? __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-29-2016, 09:45 AM	#365 (permalink)
TBatt Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20168	Stillen SC kit due to arrive next Tuesday! TopgunZ, is my kit still on track for early June? __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

04-29-2016, 09:53 AM	#366 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 10	Update...so Seb says the cruising logs look great. We are troubleshooting an issue where the transmission gets hung up and doesn't want to shift in 3rd or 4th gear between 3-4k rpm. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

04-30-2016, 01:48 AM	#368 (permalink)
bewhitey Base Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Denver Posts: 78 Drives: 370z 40th #704 M6 SC Rep Power: 9	Could we just cut one of these puppies into the charge pipe and keep the water to air setup alive? frozenboost seems to be all about water to air intercoolers __________________ Vortech SC\|Stillen Sway Bars+Facia+Skirts+CB Exhaust\|Z1 Clutch+CSC Elimination Kit\|ACT LW Flywheel\|Tein Coils+EDFC\|SPL Camber Arms\|RJM Clutch Pedal\|TWM Short Shifter\|Morimoto Switchback LED's\|Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler\|AIR 2 AIR\|E85 Flex Fuel\|460 whp TheBoostCreep

04-30-2016, 01:24 PM	#369 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	Will never fit plus your mafs will still be pre charger. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-30-2016, 02:29 PM	#370 (permalink)
bewhitey Base Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Denver Posts: 78 Drives: 370z 40th #704 M6 SC Rep Power: 9	Sawzall a hole in the hood and weld a hood scoop on! I thought this was uhmareca! Then put a gol dern maf sensor behind it. Bewhitey water to air kit! comes with 100mph duct tape (that would probably be a fun project) __________________ Vortech SC\|Stillen Sway Bars+Facia+Skirts+CB Exhaust\|Z1 Clutch+CSC Elimination Kit\|ACT LW Flywheel\|Tein Coils+EDFC\|SPL Camber Arms\|RJM Clutch Pedal\|TWM Short Shifter\|Morimoto Switchback LED's\|Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler\|AIR 2 AIR\|E85 Flex Fuel\|460 whp TheBoostCreep

04-30-2016, 09:43 PM	#371 (permalink)
StillenZ84 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 316 Drives: 2010 370Z 7AT S/C Rep Power: 17	Update- So today we were still detecting knock. Seb sent me a tune with only 17 deg advanced WOT and it still knocked. He said that this pretty much confirmed that it was detecting false knock. He said there is absolutely no way it would be knocking on e85 and only 17 deg advanced. He plans on desensitizing my knock sensor and we will try again. Seb said this sometimes happens to supercharged Zs that he has tuned because the blower is attached to the engine and it detects its vibration. On a positive note, I did hit 11 psi today! 370Zsteve, BOLIO 671, Pauly Z and 1 others like this. __________________ AtA SC\|9 lb pulley\|2.85" SC\|3.47" Jack\|E85\|CJM S1-SE\|ID1000s\|Walboro 485\|Zeitronix FF\|Stillen CBE\|AP Racing\|Level 10\|F.I. Flex plate\|Nismo-S tune\|EcuTek RaceRom\|Sebz\|Speed density\|Haltech\|3GsCustoms Dual pod a-pillar\|Carbon Signal GTR gauges\|Fujimura\|Built\| CP Pistons/Carrillo rods\|PortPolishHeads/intakes\|928motorsports IG: evanosteenz34

04-30-2016, 10:19 PM	#372 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 10	Yeah Seb said he has never seen my issue. With the changed torque values in the tune the transmission would get hung up between 3-4k rpms and wouldn't shift. He changed the torque values back to stock and it shifts fine. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

04-30-2016, 10:28 PM	#374 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 10	That's exactly what mine is doing. It only does it in 3rd or 4th gear Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

04-30-2016, 10:31 PM	#375 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 10	Oh and yes it is stock. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

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