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I know I'm digging up an old thread but since, you know, "search the forum first..." Thanks a lot ZForce and Dustin@Z1 for the info RE: post-OC temp readings. I

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Old 05-27-2012, 03:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know I'm digging up an old thread but since, you know, "search the forum first..."

Thanks a lot ZForce and Dustin@Z1 for the info RE: post-OC temp readings. I used to feel a HUGE drop in power at about 225* (anyone else notice this?) before I got the OC. The OC install dropped my average temps LOADS so I thought the problem was over, but now I feel the power drop at around 205. It was baffling me for the longest time but that MUST mean the in-engine oil temps are basically about 20* hotter than the gauge says.

I just wish the car wouldn't pull so much power at 225*. I mean, it's terrible, even flooring it in first gear does near nothing until 4000rpm. :-/ Do you all get this lag at those temps?

Oh, on a side note, has anyone noticed turning on their AC ironically brings engine temps down about 10*? It's pretty consistent. I'm in Vegas, and I'd usually just bear the heat, but I actually HAVE to turn on AC just to kick in the fans to help cool my engine when it's lagging like hell.
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I know I'm digging up an old thread but since, you know, "search the forum first..."

Thanks a lot ZForce and Dustin@Z1 for the info RE: post-OC temp readings. I used to feel a HUGE drop in power at about 225* (anyone else notice this?) before I got the OC. The OC install dropped my average temps LOADS....
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Oh, on a side note, has anyone noticed turning on their AC ironically brings engine temps down about 10*? It's pretty consistent. I'm in Vegas, and I'd usually just bear the heat, but I actually HAVE to turn on AC just to kick in the fans to help cool my engine when it's lagging like hell.
The drop in temp may be because the Aux fans kick may automatically kick on when the A/C is cycled on. I have honestly never paid any attenion to the 370Z and how this behaves. But I know most old school vehicles did this.
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The drop in temp may be because the Aux fans kick may automatically kick on when the A/C is cycled on. I have honestly never paid any attenion to the 370Z and how this behaves. But I know most old school vehicles did this.
The behavior varies by vehicle design, but I too have definitely observed that a Z with normal ECU settings runs colder with the AC on. This seems counter-intuitive at first since the AC should be (a) adding engine load and (b) adding a little more heat back into the radiator via the condenser (the heat extracted from the hot air to make it blow cold). However, as noted by Dustin above, it's the fact that the ECU turns on the electric radiator fan(s) more often that makes up the difference and then some, due to increased airflow through the radiator (esp at lower speeds).

UpRev can now control this behavior: there are independent settings for AC-on vs AC-off which control fan duty cycle -vs- water temps. Aside from turning them on earlier in general, you can set the AC-on settings the same as AC-off and then you don't have to turn on the AC just to get the fans going.

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Thanks a lot ZForce and Dustin@Z1 for the info RE: post-OC temp readings. I used to feel a HUGE drop in power at about 225* (anyone else notice this?) before I got the OC. The OC install dropped my average temps LOADS so I thought the problem was over, but now I feel the power drop at around 205. It was baffling me for the longest time but that MUST mean the in-engine oil temps are basically about 20* hotter than the gauge says.

I just wish the car wouldn't pull so much power at 225*. I mean, it's terrible, even flooring it in first gear does near nothing until 4000rpm. :-/ Do you all get this lag at those temps?

Oh, on a side note, has anyone noticed turning on their AC ironically brings engine temps down about 10*? It's pretty consistent. I'm in Vegas, and I'd usually just bear the heat, but I actually HAVE to turn on AC just to kick in the fans to help cool my engine when it's lagging like hell.
I would look at the IAT's that are coming in as well. Being in Vegas, the air is thinner, the pressure is lower, and it's much hotter. Did you notice it dropping power at 205 in the winter? I'm fairly certain the motor is pulling timing because it's sucking in air that's as hot as a hair dryer. An oil cooler does help maintain power, it's definitely not the cure all for maintaining it consistently through weather changes.

This is just an educated guess so please don't take this as word of God.
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Thanks a lot ZForce and Dustin@Z1 for the info RE: post-OC temp readings. I used to feel a HUGE drop in power at about 225* (anyone else notice this?) before I got the OC. The OC install dropped my average temps LOADS so I thought the problem was over, but now I feel the power drop at around 205. It was baffling me for the longest time but that MUST mean the in-engine oil temps are basically about 20* hotter than the gauge says.

I just wish the car wouldn't pull so much power at 225*. I mean, it's terrible, even flooring it in first gear does near nothing until 4000rpm. :-/ Do you all get this lag at those temps?

Oh, on a side note, has anyone noticed turning on their AC ironically brings engine temps down about 10*? It's pretty consistent. I'm in Vegas, and I'd usually just bear the heat, but I actually HAVE to turn on AC just to kick in the fans to help cool my engine when it's lagging like hell.



I am not experiencing the lag your are experiencing at 225, then again I am located in a cooler region and we have not experienced yet this year any higher temps than 82 degrees. Looks like Dusting, SSFire and wstar covered the a /c fan.
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