Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside!

Whjaxn17 · 01-03-2019, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

but which E85? The kind you get at the local gas station that has ethanol levels that can vary dramatically or E85R which is a tightly controlled E85 race fuel.

Hotrodz is right, 93 and E85 and tuned on Uprev. I honestly don't know about the E85, though. The closest station that carries it is like an hour from Z1, so I'm not sure if it was ordered or if somebody made a special trip and went to stock up.

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Hotrodz · 01-03-2019, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17

Hotrodz is right, 93 and E85 and tuned on Uprev. I honestly don't know about the E85, though. The closest station that carries it is like an hour from Z1, so I'm not sure if it was ordered or if somebody made a special trip and went to stock up.

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It was pump e85 not vp, egnite or torco. Just so things don't get twisted, Will has kept me up to date on all of this. He and I share ideas with each other on our builds.

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NorthStyle · 01-03-2019, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

It was pump e85 not vp, egnite or torco. Just so things don't get twisted, Will has kept me up to date on all of this. He and I share ideas with each other on our builds.

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Thinking about a set of cams for the track beast?

Whjaxn17 · 01-03-2019, 06:34 PM

I'm sure everybody's curious, so here's both, 93 pump gas and corn.

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SG4247 · 01-03-2019, 07:04 PM

I would absolutely pay money to see another car (besides mine!) equiped with same parts be dynoed on Z1’s dyno.

Whjaxn17 · 01-03-2019, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247

I would absolutely pay money to see another car (besides mine!) equiped with same parts be dynoed on Z1’s dyno.

You can pay for my dyno time

Not sure I follow this, though

SG4247 · 01-04-2019, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17

You can pay for my dyno time

Not sure I follow this, though

In other words, I like to see Z1 repeat the dyno testing on a different car (engine) with all of the same mods.

This would determine if the results were repeatable, or if your results were just the will of the Z gods.

If they could duplicate the results on a different car, that would indicate that the recipe of mods is very well matched and complemented, i.e. “the perfect set up”.

Hotrodz · 01-04-2019, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SG4247

In other words, I like to see Z1 repeat the dyno testing on a different car (engine) with all of the same mods.

This would determine if the results were repeatable, or if your results were just the will of the Z gods.

If they could duplicate the results on a different car, that would indicate that the recipe of mods is very well matched and complemented, i.e. “the perfect set up”.

This is common theme when someone provides data on significant gains with any build. The reality is regardless of the car gains will be made with Z1 400 kit. It has been proven over and over already. The degree of the gains will be based on the additional mods you add to that list, the weather, the dyno and your motor. My experience with own build compared to others with similar or the same modes showed my motor made at least 20whp less than most regardless of fuel type. I was disappointed at first but that went away after I drove it and Seb told me the rest of the story and was my motor was a freak on the torque side of the game. Because I was on a stock motor and internals he could not maximize my top end or whp because my tq level could not be held down. Anyway, like John said the results were unexpected but definitely worth sharing. You got to pay your money and take your chances as nothing is a sure thing if you are chasing record type numbers.

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Rusty · 01-04-2019, 11:08 AM

When you are doing work on a motor. It's best to stick to one dyno for all the testing. Baseline and tuning. If you use different dyno's. The results will be fudged.

Spooler · 01-04-2019, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You got to pay your money and take your chances as nothing is a sure thing if you are chasing record type numbers.

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This ^^^^^^^

Whjaxn17 · 01-04-2019, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247

In other words, I like to see Z1 repeat the dyno testing on a different car (engine) with all of the same mods.

This would determine if the results were repeatable, or if your results were just the will of the Z gods.

If they could duplicate the results on a different car, that would indicate that the recipe of mods is very well matched and complemented, i.e. “the perfect set up”.

Whoa, slow down. Just because I have the target on my back now doesn't mean I'm ready for yall to start shooting just yet

Let me enjoy it for a while haha

Spooler · 01-04-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17

Whoa, slow down. Just because I have the target on my back now doesn't mean I'm ready for yall to start shooting just yet

Let me enjoy it for a while haha

Johnnydrama has a shot to get you. LOL He is not doing E85 though and it looks like that gained you 10hp.

Spooler · 01-09-2019, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17

Whoa, slow down. Just because I have the target on my back now doesn't mean I'm ready for yall to start shooting just yet

Let me enjoy it for a while haha

When it comes time to rebuild, go with Forged pistons with 12.5:1 and I beat you will hit 400+hp at the wheel. You may want to upgrade the rods too but the factory ones may be just fine. I would use better rod bolts though.

SS_Firehawk · 01-03-2019, 07:19 PM

This is awesome to see with off the shelf parts and tune. Gives more NA peeps hope.

I have those cams in a box and about to order injectors for my car. Makes me want to hurry up.

Unfortunately, my cams and SC will be going on at the same time and can't really do a comparison. Doing some minor head porting and upping the valve size by 1mm.

johnnydrama · 01-04-2019, 09:33 AM

I will have a repeat of the same mods minus the e85 and injectors, I am staying on 93 octane. It will be installed and tuned by Dynosty in the coming months, don't have a firm date on the calendar yet.

I made 341whp/271wtq with the following list of power or power related mods:

Z1 Intakes
Z1 Plenum Power Mod
Motordyne LTH
Fast Intentions Exhaust
Stillen Lightweight Pulley
Z1 Lightweight Flywheel

The next round will include the following list of upgrades:

Z1 Race Intakes Upgrade (Installed)
Z1 Ported Lower Intake (Installed)
Dewla Dezign Cold Air Intake Guide (Installed)
Z1 2-piece Lightweight Rotors (Installing this weekend)
Jim Wolf C2 Cams (Pending installation and tune at Dynosty)

I was also going to do EPS Big Bore Throttle Bodies but both Z1 and Dynosty have recommended staying away from them due to poor idle quality and reliability issues.

After the tune is done, I will be going back and upgrading the LSD and final drive to 4.08s. At which point my N/A build should be complete... yea right.

I will share with everyone the results of the C2 cams once completed.

01-03-2019, 06:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Whjaxn17 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 420 Drives: 17 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 3365	I'm sure everybody's curious, so here's both, 93 pump gas and corn. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk __________________ 377whp/299wtq NA 704whp/519wtq, SOHO stage 2.5 IG: pearlywhite.z

01-04-2019, 11:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,546 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684439	When you are doing work on a motor. It's best to stick to one dyno for all the testing. Baseline and tuning. If you use different dyno's. The results will be fudged. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

01-03-2019, 07:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	This is awesome to see with off the shelf parts and tune. Gives more NA peeps hope. I have those cams in a box and about to order injectors for my car. Makes me want to hurry up. Unfortunately, my cams and SC will be going on at the same time and can't really do a comparison. Doing some minor head porting and upping the valve size by 1mm. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

01-04-2019, 09:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
johnnydrama Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 40 Posts: 606 Drives: Nismo & FPace SVR Rep Power: 2232	I will have a repeat of the same mods minus the e85 and injectors, I am staying on 93 octane. It will be installed and tuned by Dynosty in the coming months, don't have a firm date on the calendar yet. I made 341whp/271wtq with the following list of power or power related mods: Z1 Intakes Z1 Plenum Power Mod Motordyne LTH Fast Intentions Exhaust Stillen Lightweight Pulley Z1 Lightweight Flywheel The next round will include the following list of upgrades: Z1 Race Intakes Upgrade (Installed) Z1 Ported Lower Intake (Installed) Dewla Dezign Cold Air Intake Guide (Installed) Z1 2-piece Lightweight Rotors (Installing this weekend) Jim Wolf C2 Cams (Pending installation and tune at Dynosty) I was also going to do EPS Big Bore Throttle Bodies but both Z1 and Dynosty have recommended staying away from them due to poor idle quality and reliability issues. After the tune is done, I will be going back and upgrading the LSD and final drive to 4.08s. At which point my N/A build should be complete... yea right. I will share with everyone the results of the C2 cams once completed. __________________ 358WHP/271WTQ BUILD THREAD Last edited by johnnydrama; 01-04-2019 at 09:57 AM.

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