Z1 front adjustable camber arms

370z1 · 01-13-2016, 11:51 PM

Good Job "oscargarza88"!
I just purchased mine too, these are the best priced front camber control arms I have seen and they appear to have a good design. I too am tired of eating up the inside on all 4 tires only to have their outside tread almost new, (uhg). But to be honest originally when I had my alignment done (after) lowering the (Z) AND adding wider tires in rear (305's) & fronts (265's) I suspected doing that would cause tires to get chewed up because as we know the (Z) already has several degree camber from factory so when we lower the car and add fatter tires it can only make the need for adjustable camber (front & rear) a requirement. BUT that being said, after I got my alignment after lowering spring and wider tires the tech showed me he was able to get the camber to only a few degrees shy of neutral position ie: 0-degree's so when we looked at it it was not bad at all, in fact the tires front and rear were very close to looking flat on the ground but being close to being flat won't work and that was my own wishful thinking. I knew eventually I was gonna get the front and rear camber kits but one thing leads to another and only after 6,000 miles I ate up my beautiful new Hankook 265/305 set when the camber had only been out by a couple degrees. Anyway, lesson learned so now I am looking forward to add these and the rear kit too then drive what i have left off these then install new kit, get the new tires and finally another alignment.

Plus having my 20mm rear spacers are also counterproductive to my camber goals so I hope these new kits get me very close to neutral zero degrees. Well wait, if I am at zero then tire will sit perfectly flat and that is a problem because since the spacers are pushing the rears outward now they don't sit I side the fender well so I will have a rubbing issue. Hmmmm, I like my spacers, and I want zero degrees on my camber, but something gotta give, after I decide what I did I will post some pic ok.

Question for DatsunFTW or anyone who who's. Is the Alignment tech forced to remove the front end to I stall front camber arms? That could be an issue for me. I have the Stillen front bumper they refer to it as their "facia" anyway over time some of the clip which hold it on have been damaged and I know the tech won't know how certain things are gently being held together and I could risk them breaking it completely and I don't want to be out a front Stillen bumper as that would run a lot after paint and labor. Hmmmm, I love our custom cars but at some point I am gonna get tired of all the little hidden gotcha's you know?

Well I look forward to your updates and how the rest of you felt about the install of the new arms and how smoothly it went for you.

RumbleFish · 01-14-2016, 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=370z1;3387856Question for DatsunFTW or anyone who who's. Is the Alignment tech forced to remove the front end to I stall front camber arms? That could be an issue for me. I have the Stillen front bumper they refer to it as their "facia" anyway over time some of the clip which hold it on have been damaged and I know the tech won't know how certain things are gently being held together and I could risk them breaking it completely and I don't want to be out a front Stillen bumper as that would run a lot after paint and labor. Hmmmm, I love our custom cars but at some point I am gonna get tired of all the little hidden gotcha's you know?.[/QUOTE]

Looking at the install instructions here https://www.z1motorsports.com/upload...trolArmSet.pdf

No, you do not need to remove the front facia to install the Z1 FUCA's

wideglideleon · 01-15-2016, 02:18 PM

Have mine installed had alignment yesterday.
So far I like them a lot . Alignment was expensive since they have to take them off for adjustment, they ended up having to do that three time till I was happy with the numbers.
Swift springs, SPL rear camber arms and SPC toe bolts and Z1 upper control arms to get it right after springs.
The shop doing my alignment liked the build quality of the Z1 control arms. Said they were a quality product.

RumbleFish · 01-15-2016, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wideglideleon

Alignment was expensive since they have to take them off for adjustment, they ended up having to do that three time till I was happy with the numbers.

I don't like the sound of that.

Rusty · 01-16-2016, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RumbleFish

I don't like the sound of that.

The SPL arms. You don't have to do that with. You can adjust camber and caster on the car at the same time without taking nothing off. Loosen up the pitch bolts on the adjusters. Use a socket and a long extension. Go in to the adjusters from over the top of the tire. Make your adjustment. Done.

RumbleFish · 01-20-2016, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

The SPL arms. You don't have to do that with. You can adjust camber and caster on the car at the same time without taking nothing off. Loosen up the pitch bolts on the adjusters. Use a socket and a long extension. Go in to the adjusters from over the top of the tire. Make your adjustment. Done.

I contacted Z1 about this. Here's their reply,

I understand your concern. If you have Z1 arms or any other arms on the market and the average shop is doing an alignment, they may take more time or have to repeat some steps. A performance alignment shop should not have this issue, however, caster adjustment is not often on the control arms as it is a benefit when looking for the most adjustment possible, this can add to the process. Most performance alignment shops are used to working on advanced street cars, track cars and racecars, the work involved should be more less then what they normally see.

Alignment shops should adjust all arms as needed. It is part of the alignment to align and adjust any and all arms. Some basic shops may not need to make as many adjustments as you would find on a modified car. This is where the performance shops come into play. The arm will only need to be removed if adjusting for caster, adjusting camber is easy but the front tires would need to be removed. This will go for any camber/control arm on the market for the front.

Regarding the install of our arms, most qualified shops should be able to install and adjust these parts in 1-2 moves. If not I would probably be looking for another alignment shop.

Regarding removal single Camber on the street arms can be adjusted without removing the whole arm, similar to a Kinetix design the outer joint only has to be un bolted from the knuckle and spun to make the adjustment. This is the most common adjustment on street arms.

I plan on taking my car to Precision Z here in SoCal.
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I don't think they'll have any issues with these.

JD370Z13 · 01-20-2016, 01:09 PM

I purchased the z1 arms as well. Please keep us posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RumbleFish

I contacted Z1 about this. Here's their reply,

I understand your concern. If you have Z1 arms or any other arms on the market and the average shop is doing an alignment, they may take more time or have to repeat some steps. A performance alignment shop should not have this issue, however, caster adjustment is not often on the control arms as it is a benefit when looking for the most adjustment possible, this can add to the process. Most performance alignment shops are used to working on advanced street cars, track cars and racecars, the work involved should be more less then what they normally see.

Alignment shops should adjust all arms as needed. It is part of the alignment to align and adjust any and all arms. Some basic shops may not need to make as many adjustments as you would find on a modified car. This is where the performance shops come into play. The arm will only need to be removed if adjusting for caster, adjusting camber is easy but the front tires would need to be removed. This will go for any camber/control arm on the market for the front.

I plan on taking my car to Precision Z here in SoCal.
Services We Provide

I don't think they'll have any issues with these.

Rusty · 01-20-2016, 02:02 PM

The Z1 arms are nice. But not as friendly to adjust as the SPL arms.

For your reading enjoyment. Lots of pictures.

The Complete SPL Front Suspension

01-14-2016, 03:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
RumbleFish A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Los Feliz, Ca. Posts: 1,213 Drives: '10-Sport-M6 Rep Power: 8241	[QUOTE=370z1;3387856Question for DatsunFTW or anyone who who's. Is the Alignment tech forced to remove the front end to I stall front camber arms? That could be an issue for me. I have the Stillen front bumper they refer to it as their "facia" anyway over time some of the clip which hold it on have been damaged and I know the tech won't know how certain things are gently being held together and I could risk them breaking it completely and I don't want to be out a front Stillen bumper as that would run a lot after paint and labor. Hmmmm, I love our custom cars but at some point I am gonna get tired of all the little hidden gotcha's you know?.[/QUOTE] Looking at the install instructions here https://www.z1motorsports.com/upload...trolArmSet.pdf No, you do not need to remove the front facia to install the Z1 FUCA's __________________ How far, this...Utopia? F.I. CBE V2/Stillen G3 CAI/GTM 25R OC/EcuTek tune (Specialty Z)/ KW V3's/Stillen Sway bars/SPC rear camber kit/Z1 FUCA/Mich. PSS4S 255/35-295/30

01-15-2016, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
wideglideleon Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 569 Drives: SC 09 370Z LG 7AT Rep Power: 64087	Have mine installed had alignment yesterday. So far I like them a lot . Alignment was expensive since they have to take them off for adjustment, they ended up having to do that three time till I was happy with the numbers. Swift springs, SPL rear camber arms and SPC toe bolts and Z1 upper control arms to get it right after springs. The shop doing my alignment liked the build quality of the Z1 control arms. Said they were a quality product. Last edited by wideglideleon; 01-15-2016 at 02:20 PM.

01-20-2016, 02:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 70 Posts: 35,575 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684440	The Z1 arms are nice. But not as friendly to adjust as the SPL arms. For your reading enjoyment. Lots of pictures. The Complete SPL Front Suspension ban25 and RumbleFish like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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01-13-2016, 11:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
370z1 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 105 Drives: 2011 370Z Stillen SC Rep Power: 75	Good Job "oscargarza88"! I just purchased mine too, these are the best priced front camber control arms I have seen and they appear to have a good design. I too am tired of eating up the inside on all 4 tires only to have their outside tread almost new, (uhg). But to be honest originally when I had my alignment done (after) lowering the (Z) AND adding wider tires in rear (305's) & fronts (265's) I suspected doing that would cause tires to get chewed up because as we know the (Z) already has several degree camber from factory so when we lower the car and add fatter tires it can only make the need for adjustable camber (front & rear) a requirement. BUT that being said, after I got my alignment after lowering spring and wider tires the tech showed me he was able to get the camber to only a few degrees shy of neutral position ie: 0-degree's so when we looked at it it was not bad at all, in fact the tires front and rear were very close to looking flat on the ground but being close to being flat won't work and that was my own wishful thinking. I knew eventually I was gonna get the front and rear camber kits but one thing leads to another and only after 6,000 miles I ate up my beautiful new Hankook 265/305 set when the camber had only been out by a couple degrees. Anyway, lesson learned so now I am looking forward to add these and the rear kit too then drive what i have left off these then install new kit, get the new tires and finally another alignment. Plus having my 20mm rear spacers are also counterproductive to my camber goals so I hope these new kits get me very close to neutral zero degrees. Well wait, if I am at zero then tire will sit perfectly flat and that is a problem because since the spacers are pushing the rears outward now they don't sit I side the fender well so I will have a rubbing issue. Hmmmm, I like my spacers, and I want zero degrees on my camber, but something gotta give, after I decide what I did I will post some pic ok. Question for DatsunFTW or anyone who who's. Is the Alignment tech forced to remove the front end to I stall front camber arms? That could be an issue for me. I have the Stillen front bumper they refer to it as their "facia" anyway over time some of the clip which hold it on have been damaged and I know the tech won't know how certain things are gently being held together and I could risk them breaking it completely and I don't want to be out a front Stillen bumper as that would run a lot after paint and labor. Hmmmm, I love our custom cars but at some point I am gonna get tired of all the little hidden gotcha's you know? Well I look forward to your updates and how the rest of you felt about the install of the new arms and how smoothly it went for you.