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Old 01-10-2016, 03:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't see them being any better than SPC, probably fine for street use. No way in hell would I run those on track.
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I don't see them being any better than SPC, probably fine for street use. No way in hell would I run those on track.
So, when the Z1 guys say..."Yes these are completely from our design and built a little heavier than the Kinetix. We have been testing development designs for over 2 years with no problems. Our test cars do see fairly aggressive abuse jumping curbing at quite a few tracks and Russell's street driving is also a bit over the top. I would say I have more faith in these arms than any other part on the market."

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I have the SPC (installed by previous owner) and I don't feel great about the camber adjustment design. I am looking forward to your experience, as I could swap to these (and sell the SPC's) when I do my springs.
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So, when the Z1 guys say..."Yes these are completely from our design and built a little heavier than the Kinetix. We have been testing development designs for over 2 years with no problems. Our test cars do see fairly aggressive abuse jumping curbing at quite a few tracks and Russell's street driving is also a bit over the top. I would say I have more faith in these arms than any other part on the market."

You don't believe them?
I was thinking the same thing.
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I have Z1's Track Front Control Arms for a little over a month now. I don't know how they are different from the Street but it might be an adjustability thing. The build and quality is very good.

When I went in for an allignment it was quite a headache but it still went okay. Had to call Jon at Z1 to give me and the allignment guy a little bit of help. To adjust camber we had to lift the front end up enough to get the joint off and extend/contract it. Caster can only be adjusted by removing the control arm and manually adjusting it. Luckily enough I actually somehow got the caster at my desired spot of 8.0 degrees. The camber was a bit fiddly but still got it to -3.0.

But the overall nice thing about them is that from there camber and caster are pretty much set until you adjust it down the road. I can rip them all I want on the track yet it will stay at exactly my specifications.

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I have one track day on them already and I have no issues and they are solid. I have another one coming up on the 23rd and I could update everyone accordingly
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So, when the Z1 guys say..."Yes these are completely from our design and built a little heavier than the Kinetix. We have been testing development designs for over 2 years with no problems. Our test cars do see fairly aggressive abuse jumping curbing at quite a few tracks and Russell's street driving is also a bit over the top. I would say I have more faith in these arms than any other part on the market."

You don't believe them?
No and it has nothing to so with the parts guy on the phone, it has everything to do with the physical design of a loaded in shear bolt. It's a structurally inferior design to a loaded in compression design like the SPL's. Having seen SPC's snap at the track and causing thousands of dollars worth of damage to a car, I would not run a front camber arm from any mfgr with that physical design period. Even if +30 dollars says they are AOK.


Edit: Although looking at the pics above, it does look like that is loaded in compression, is the "track" upgrade a different attachment to the spindle? If so then I would definitely consider them. And if so they they really should show both pics in their ad.
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I will be installing mine this evening we will see what the alignment shop has to say about adjusting them. Hope its obvious for them, I will bring the install instructions along in case.
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Do you have the street version? Mind attaching a picture? I am curious

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Good Job "oscargarza88"!
I just purchased mine too, these are the best priced front camber control arms I have seen and they appear to have a good design. I too am tired of eating up the inside on all 4 tires only to have their outside tread almost new, (uhg). But to be honest originally when I had my alignment done (after) lowering the (Z) AND adding wider tires in rear (305's) & fronts (265's) I suspected doing that would cause tires to get chewed up because as we know the (Z) already has several degree camber from factory so when we lower the car and add fatter tires it can only make the need for adjustable camber (front & rear) a requirement. BUT that being said, after I got my alignment after lowering spring and wider tires the tech showed me he was able to get the camber to only a few degrees shy of neutral position ie: 0-degree's so when we looked at it it was not bad at all, in fact the tires front and rear were very close to looking flat on the ground but being close to being flat won't work and that was my own wishful thinking. I knew eventually I was gonna get the front and rear camber kits but one thing leads to another and only after 6,000 miles I ate up my beautiful new Hankook 265/305 set when the camber had only been out by a couple degrees. Anyway, lesson learned so now I am looking forward to add these and the rear kit too then drive what i have left off these then install new kit, get the new tires and finally another alignment.

Plus having my 20mm rear spacers are also counterproductive to my camber goals so I hope these new kits get me very close to neutral zero degrees. Well wait, if I am at zero then tire will sit perfectly flat and that is a problem because since the spacers are pushing the rears outward now they don't sit I side the fender well so I will have a rubbing issue. Hmmmm, I like my spacers, and I want zero degrees on my camber, but something gotta give, after I decide what I did I will post some pic ok.

Question for DatsunFTW or anyone who who's. Is the Alignment tech forced to remove the front end to I stall front camber arms? That could be an issue for me. I have the Stillen front bumper they refer to it as their "facia" anyway over time some of the clip which hold it on have been damaged and I know the tech won't know how certain things are gently being held together and I could risk them breaking it completely and I don't want to be out a front Stillen bumper as that would run a lot after paint and labor. Hmmmm, I love our custom cars but at some point I am gonna get tired of all the little hidden gotcha's you know?


Well I look forward to your updates and how the rest of you felt about the install of the new arms and how smoothly it went for you.
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[QUOTE=370z1;3387856Question for DatsunFTW or anyone who who's. Is the Alignment tech forced to remove the front end to I stall front camber arms? That could be an issue for me. I have the Stillen front bumper they refer to it as their "facia" anyway over time some of the clip which hold it on have been damaged and I know the tech won't know how certain things are gently being held together and I could risk them breaking it completely and I don't want to be out a front Stillen bumper as that would run a lot after paint and labor. Hmmmm, I love our custom cars but at some point I am gonna get tired of all the little hidden gotcha's you know?.[/QUOTE]

Looking at the install instructions here https://www.z1motorsports.com/upload...trolArmSet.pdf

No, you do not need to remove the front facia to install the Z1 FUCA's
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Have mine installed had alignment yesterday.
So far I like them a lot . Alignment was expensive since they have to take them off for adjustment, they ended up having to do that three time till I was happy with the numbers.
Swift springs, SPL rear camber arms and SPC toe bolts and Z1 upper control arms to get it right after springs.
The shop doing my alignment liked the build quality of the Z1 control arms. Said they were a quality product.

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