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I agree with others here. I wouldn't buy anything "Kicker". They're not all that great, and definitely not what I think of when speaking about SQ. I also agree about

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I agree with others here. I wouldn't buy anything "Kicker". They're not all that great, and definitely not what I think of when speaking about SQ. I also agree about NOT running rear fill speakers. Not because they'll drown out the front speakers (that's what faders and level adjustments are for), but because the rear fill with ultimately screw up and collapse the front stage. Then again, it doesn't seem to me that front stage is all that important to you either.

Being that you are concerned about space and where to mount amps and such, it would be a smart move to look at only multi-channel amps. That way you can power the entire system with only one amp.

I just purchased an Arc Audio XDi 1200.6. It's a 6 channel amp, full Class D (digital), and runs at 150w watts x 4 @ 4 or 2 ohms OR 300w bridged into 2 ch stereo @ 4 ohms, and 150w x 2 @ 4 ohms, 300w x 2 @ 2 ohms, or 600 bridged mono @ 4 ohms. The best part is, it's SMALL! (13"W x 6.2"L x 2.1"H) And it has plenty of power for the entire system.

Lastly, the discussion about metal dome vs soft dome tweeters... I have heard and owned plenty of both over the years, both for car audio and home audio. Once you reach a certain price point, it really doesn't matter. In fact, some of the absolute best tweeters in the world are metal dome. It's all a matter of the technology involved that makes a tweeter.

Then again, you could go one step further and use no tweeter at all and end up with exquisite results, such as my Martin Logan electrostatic speakers that I use in my home system, that I recently modded by removing the passive crossover networks and now run a DSP and vertically bi-amped with two modded Carver M-500t MkII amps, producing 420 watts per channel into 4 ohms. And all of that power is not for loudness, it's for dynamic headroom.

Anyway, I'm rambling now.
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Here's another amp to consider:

T1000X5ad - Power 1,000 Watt Class AD 5-Channel Amplifier | Rockford Fosgate®

I like that it has speaker level inputs built in, and that remote punch level gain deal.

The size though: 1.6 x 4.3 x 12 (in.) Crazy!

So many options now!!! I've not bought an amp in nearly 10 years....
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I agree with others here. I wouldn't buy anything "Kicker". They're not all that great, and definitely not what I think of when speaking about SQ. I also agree about NOT running rear fill speakers. Not because they'll drown out the front speakers (that's what faders and level adjustments are for), but because the rear fill with ultimately screw up and collapse the front stage. Then again, it doesn't seem to me that front stage is all that important to you either.

Being that you are concerned about space and where to mount amps and such, it would be a smart move to look at only multi-channel amps. That way you can power the entire system with only one amp.

I just purchased an Arc Audio XDi 1200.6. It's a 6 channel amp, full Class D (digital), and runs at 150w watts x 4 @ 4 or 2 ohms OR 300w bridged into 2 ch stereo @ 4 ohms, and 150w x 2 @ 4 ohms, 300w x 2 @ 2 ohms, or 600 bridged mono @ 4 ohms. The best part is, it's SMALL! (13"W x 6.2"L x 2.1"H) And it has plenty of power for the entire system.

Lastly, the discussion about metal dome vs soft dome tweeters... I have heard and owned plenty of both over the years, both for car audio and home audio. Once you reach a certain price point, it really doesn't matter. In fact, some of the absolute best tweeters in the world are metal dome. It's all a matter of the technology involved that makes a tweeter.

Then again, you could go one step further and use no tweeter at all and end up with exquisite results, such as my Martin Logan electrostatic speakers that I use in my home system, that I recently modded by removing the passive crossover networks and now run a DSP and vertically bi-amped with two modded Carver M-500t MkII amps, producing 420 watts per channel into 4 ohms. And all of that power is not for loudness, it's for dynamic headroom.

Anyway, I'm rambling now.
Those electrostatics just are amazing on axis! Emotiva has some more affordable studio speakers with them now, but I'm pretty good with my budget M-Audio M3-6's for now.

I did hear those ML floorstanding versions about 20 years ago, was about as close as to feeling like you're at a live concert especially with rock/percussion.
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Those electrostatics just are amazing on axis!

I did hear those ML floorstanding versions about 20 years ago, was about as close as to feeling like you're at a live concert especially with rock/percussion.
With the dbx Driverack Venu360 DSP taking care of crossover duty, time alignment and room correction, even off-axis is great. I even have the JL Audio sub being controlled through the dbx, also bypassing the internal crossover, time aligned and room correction. It all locks in seamlessly. Time aligning the sub with the mains made a HUGE improvement.



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