Smooth Throttle for UpRev

Awgd8 · 03-24-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Motinatan

Hi ther to you all.
I like to understand what will be the best file to use with my car.
My car is 370z manual transmission with gtm stage 2 supercharger, with 11psi pulley.
Is there anyone that have the same setup and use one of the maps?

I really have no Idea. Try the AWGD8-DD

This is just a tweak to the stock infiniti S throttle design- which gives you the power build up as you constantly pushing the gas. My tweak on this is the power start early and better highend too! This is smoother like a stock, but better responsiveness.

Shamrock · 03-24-2015, 03:55 PM

Could I use the tune the car has now? What about the manual gtm stage 2 with 11 psi pully? I have a friend with the exact setup as was posted.

Awgd8 · 03-24-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

Could I use the tune the car has now? What about the manual gtm stage 2 with 11 psi pully? I have a friend with the exact setup as was posted.

Do you have access to your tune file? Would you be able to flash on your own?

Shamrock · 03-24-2015, 03:59 PM

Can the power map be used as a daily driver? Any downsides?

Awgd8 · 03-24-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

Can the power map be used as a daily driver? Any downsides?

AWGD8-DD throttle MAP is for Daily Driver.

AWGD8-Power you can also try. The Power MAP can be used as DD, downside is probably your gas mileage suffer. Throttle opens at lower RPM. If you can send me your Tune MAP, I can tweak yours. I am just curious where you want the power (throttle response) start in the powerband?
You already have a supercharger right? Do you want the lowend controllable? What are you trying to accomplish?

As long your tune is good (A/F ratio etc) these files should be good to go!

Shamrock · 03-24-2015, 04:03 PM

Sure...I have the uprev cable. I tuned the car because I put on some mods and I used wstar's throttle chart.

Awgd8 · 04-07-2015, 01:25 PM

Anyone tried my Throttle Map? Any feedback?

ANMVQ · 04-09-2015, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Awgd8

Anyone tried my Throttle Map? Any feedback?

I wanna try the power map, You have a PM

j-rho · 04-09-2015, 12:51 AM

This is a pretty amazing thread, thanks to everyone involved for your contributions to the community.

I had a question regarding lift-throttle behavior, specifically if anybody has found a way to influence it.

To see what I mean, cruise down the freeway, lay into full throttle for a second (don't really have to be going fast), look down at the shifter, then quickly lift off the gas. At least in my car, the shifter stays where it is for about half a second, then moves to the side, indicating the engine is now providing counter-torque. I'd like to see it move in sync with the pedal coming up off the floor.

That half second or so I believe is related to "rev hang" and a means of reducing NOx emissions caused by rapid throttle closure.

The problem for me is I autocross, and we often have to move the car through some rapid-fire elements which require coordination of steering and throttle. The delay in throttle response on lift, makes this much more difficult and inconsistent.

I'm fine with the way things go as the pedal is going down, but I'd like it to follow my movements on the way back up a lot better. Do these throttle maps influence this at all?

Thanks for reading, and in advance for the help!

Awgd8 · 04-09-2015, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rho

This is a pretty amazing thread, thanks to everyone involved for your contributions to the community.

I had a question regarding lift-throttle behavior, specifically if anybody has found a way to influence it.

To see what I mean, cruise down the freeway, lay into full throttle for a second (don't really have to be going fast), look down at the shifter, then quickly lift off the gas. At least in my car, the shifter stays where it is for about half a second, then moves to the side, indicating the engine is now providing counter-torque. I'd like to see it move in sync with the pedal coming up off the floor.

That half second or so I believe is related to "rev hang" and a means of reducing NOx emissions caused by rapid throttle closure.

The problem for me is I autocross, and we often have to move the car through some rapid-fire elements which require coordination of steering and throttle. The delay in throttle response on lift, makes this much more difficult and inconsistent.

I'm fine with the way things go as the pedal is going down, but I'd like it to follow my movements on the way back up a lot better. Do these throttle maps influence this at all?

Thanks for reading, and in advance for the help!

Rev-hang is there for ease of shifting. Do you notice at what RPM it tends to shoot up or hangs for half a second? We can always experiment with the throttle map. We might not eliminate it , but we maybe can reduce it. That is why Wstar created this thread.
What RPM you normally find yourself having this delay issue? We can always tweak it!

Maybe try the Power Map and see if it lessens It.

or

ETC - "OFF" on Cipher.

j-rho · 04-09-2015, 11:56 AM

Sorry if this has been asked and answered - but does ETC off definitely fix this? And what else does it change about the way the car behaves in a performance setting? I figure I can have one map set with it off. In autocross we don't shift much if ever - we putt around in second gear. The throttle lifts I do could be anywhere from 3500 to 7500 rpm.

Awgd8 · 04-09-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by j-rho

Sorry if this has been asked and answered - but does ETC off definitely fix this? And what else does it change about the way the car behaves in a performance setting? I figure I can have one map set with it off. In autocross we don't shift much if ever - we putt around in second gear. The throttle lifts I do could be anywhere from 3500 to 7500 rpm.

bleunetizen is right, ETC " Off " is Global setting, which means it will disable your ETC torque management setting in all your 5 Maps setting.

bleunetizen · 04-09-2015, 06:08 PM

ETC off is a global thing, you can't have it per map AFAIK. It will turn off synchro rev too if you care about it.

j-rho · 04-09-2015, 09:36 PM

I can live without rev match if it means the throttles close when I lift. Only concern is what it will do to throttle application behavior.
Is it possible to wire up some kind of external switch for ESC?
Any feedback from anyone that has roadraced or autocrossed a 370 with it off?

Awgd8 · 04-09-2015, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rho

I can live without rev match if it means the throttles close when I lift. Only concern is what it will do to throttle application behavior.
Is it possible to wire up some kind of external switch for ESC?
Any feedback from anyone that has roadraced or autocrossed a 370 with it off?

It will be % ECU(throttle plate opening) = % Pedal travel. Might not be smooth enough , but how would you know without trying it?

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03-24-2015, 03:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 14	Could I use the tune the car has now? What about the manual gtm stage 2 with 11 psi pully? I have a friend with the exact setup as was posted.

03-24-2015, 03:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 14	Can the power map be used as a daily driver? Any downsides?

03-24-2015, 04:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 14	Sure...I have the uprev cable. I tuned the car because I put on some mods and I used wstar's throttle chart.

04-07-2015, 01:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Awgd8 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: WI Posts: 165 Drives: 2015 Q40 / 2008 EX35 Rep Power: 13	Anyone tried my Throttle Map? Any feedback?

04-09-2015, 12:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
j-rho Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 154 Drives: 1967 Camaro Z28 Rep Power: 12	This is a pretty amazing thread, thanks to everyone involved for your contributions to the community. I had a question regarding lift-throttle behavior, specifically if anybody has found a way to influence it. To see what I mean, cruise down the freeway, lay into full throttle for a second (don't really have to be going fast), look down at the shifter, then quickly lift off the gas. At least in my car, the shifter stays where it is for about half a second, then moves to the side, indicating the engine is now providing counter-torque. I'd like to see it move in sync with the pedal coming up off the floor. That half second or so I believe is related to "rev hang" and a means of reducing NOx emissions caused by rapid throttle closure. The problem for me is I autocross, and we often have to move the car through some rapid-fire elements which require coordination of steering and throttle. The delay in throttle response on lift, makes this much more difficult and inconsistent. I'm fine with the way things go as the pedal is going down, but I'd like it to follow my movements on the way back up a lot better. Do these throttle maps influence this at all? Thanks for reading, and in advance for the help!

04-09-2015, 11:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
j-rho Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 154 Drives: 1967 Camaro Z28 Rep Power: 12	Sorry if this has been asked and answered - but does ETC off definitely fix this? And what else does it change about the way the car behaves in a performance setting? I figure I can have one map set with it off. In autocross we don't shift much if ever - we putt around in second gear. The throttle lifts I do could be anywhere from 3500 to 7500 rpm.

04-09-2015, 06:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
bleunetizen Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NZ Posts: 138 Drives: BMW M6, 530i, 370z Rep Power: 12	ETC off is a global thing, you can't have it per map AFAIK. It will turn off synchro rev too if you care about it.

04-09-2015, 09:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
j-rho Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 154 Drives: 1967 Camaro Z28 Rep Power: 12	I can live without rev match if it means the throttles close when I lift. Only concern is what it will do to throttle application behavior. Is it possible to wire up some kind of external switch for ESC? Any feedback from anyone that has roadraced or autocrossed a 370 with it off?