Fuel Starvation Control Product

clintfocus · 06-28-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

If there is enough interest, I am looking into building another batch of these now. Not sure if I should start a new thread for it perhaps? But I do need to gauge interest to give me an idea of how many to make, if any at all!

I am taking steps to investigate ways to try and reduce the cost a little bit. I am not sure if I will get far with that, or anywhere at all. Its pending some quotes I have going. But I would probably say its best idea to gauge it assuming the cost remained the same, and go from there. I know that if I can bring it down I will have a wider market. I intended to do some redesigning on it to make it easier to manufacture, but as time passes by, it just doesnt seem like something that is wise to invest my time into doing, for what I feel is a rather limited market.

From when I decide to pull the trigger on it and order material, we are probably looking at 8 weeks or so for production. Possibly sooner, but its hard to say having only made one batch so far.

If this product is something you would be interested in jumping on the next batch, please let me know. To date, I have not been contacted by any customers from the first batch to report any surprise issues.

370z Road Race Fuel Pump

count me in

Mr&Mrs · 06-29-2013, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

If there is enough interest, I am looking into building another batch of these now. Not sure if I should start a new thread for it perhaps? But I do need to gauge interest to give me an idea of how many to make, if any at all!

I am taking steps to investigate ways to try and reduce the cost a little bit. I am not sure if I will get far with that, or anywhere at all. Its pending some quotes I have going. But I would probably say its best idea to gauge it assuming the cost remained the same, and go from there. I know that if I can bring it down I will have a wider market. I intended to do some redesigning on it to make it easier to manufacture, but as time passes by, it just doesnt seem like something that is wise to invest my time into doing, for what I feel is a rather limited market.

From when I decide to pull the trigger on it and order material, we are probably looking at 8 weeks or so for production. Possibly sooner, but its hard to say having only made one batch so far.

If this product is something you would be interested in jumping on the next batch, please let me know. To date, I have not been contacted by any customers from the first batch to report any surprise issues.

370z Road Race Fuel Pump

I erased all my PMs so i lost your price but if it is, what I think it was, I am in.

wstar · 06-28-2013, 05:00 PM

I had a surprise issue! I didn't fill up my tank all day long at the track, and the car surprisingly didn't die

G37sHKS · 06-29-2013, 04:31 AM

Will this fit g37 coupe?

On first post you said this unit is not for FI and FI people have to wait.. any update about that? (sorry i just cant read the whole 34 pages lol)

SPOHN · 06-29-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Will this fit g37 coupe?

On first post you said this unit is not for FI and FI people have to wait.. any update about that? (sorry i just cant read the whole 34 pages lol)

We have talked about that. For your basic FI kits on stock block under 550whp you will be OK. Or anything that may exceed 255lph. But any thing more than that Phunk will have to explain. There's a couple routes that can be taken.

At the same time I really wouldn't mind going with a return fuel system for this system.

Baer383 · 06-29-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

We have talked about that. For your basic FI kits on stock block under 550whp you will be OK. Or anything that may exceed 255lph. But any thing more than that Phunk will have to explain. There's a couple routes that can be taken.

At the same time I really wouldn't mind going with a return fuel system for this system.

And we talked about this and it is completely unnecessary under 600 rwhp.

SPOHN · 06-29-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

And we talked about this and it is completely unnecessary under 600 rwhp.

Preparing for the future.

phunk · 07-01-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Will this fit g37 coupe?

On first post you said this unit is not for FI and FI people have to wait.. any update about that? (sorry i just cant read the whole 34 pages lol)

the standard kit as it has been sold, i would rate for 500-550rwhp turbocharged, and less for supercharged cars. Beyond that, we are talking about custom installation and setup kits for the order. a second fuel pump will have to be installed into the secondary fuel pump slot, and some changes need to be made to plumbing, and an activation system for the secondary pump needs to be setup.

my ratings might be conservative, its hard to say. if you are able to get by on a walbro 255 now, you probably will be able to with my standard kit. its just that my standard kit isnt going to utilize its pump quite as effectively due to extra plumbing length. i also have reason to believe that the special model walbro 255 we use could possibly have a slightly lower power rating than a typical 255 due to it having secondary functions that leach from the overall volume output.

FL 4Motion · 07-02-2013, 11:05 PM

Def interested in eventually picking this up as it is a must have if you track the car. Hell, Juno was getting fuel starve on the dragon this year with around 3/4 of a tank

Phunk, you mentioned earlier trying ot get the price point down a bit if possible. It's not obscenely high right now BUT if you can get close to around an $800 mark, I don't think we would be able to resist picking this up sooner rather than later.

scruffydog · 06-29-2013, 08:55 AM

Count me in too

synolimit · 06-29-2013, 03:31 PM

To much to read. Why does this work? Is it like a surge tank? Is our fuel pumps just dangling in mid air inside the fuel tank?

takjak2 · 06-30-2013, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

To much to read. Why does this work? Is it like a surge tank? Is our fuel pumps just dangling in mid air inside the fuel tank?

The stock pump effectively only pulls from one side of the tank with a big hump (over the drive-shaft) allowing all of the fuel to slosh sway from it. Phunk's product adds a second pump with its own second pickup on the other side of the tank. This second pump is in addition to the stock pump and lives inside a beautiful billet aluminum surge can. The new assembly is entirely contained within the stock fuel tank and the plumbing to the engine isn't changed. There is also some well engineered plumbing that goes on inside the tank to ensure long term reliability of the stock pump.

--A very happy customer.

Rusty · 06-30-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by takjak2

The stock pump effectively only pulls from one side of the tank with a big hump (over the drive-shaft) allowing all of the fuel to slosh sway from it. Phunk's product adds a second pump with its own second pickup on the other side of the tank. This second pump is in addition to the stock pump and lives inside a beautiful billet aluminum surge can. The new assembly is entirely contained within the stock fuel tank and the plumbing to the engine isn't changed. There is also some well engineered plumbing that goes on inside the tank to ensure long term reliability of the stock pump.

--A very happy customer.

Couldn't of said it better!.

Happy with mine too!

ChrisSlicks · 06-30-2013, 10:44 PM

In +1

synolimit · 06-30-2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by takjak2

The stock pump effectively only pulls from one side of the tank with a big hump (over the drive-shaft) allowing all of the fuel to slosh sway from it. Phunk's product adds a second pump with its own second pickup on the other side of the tank. This second pump is in addition to the stock pump and lives inside a beautiful billet aluminum surge can. The new assembly is entirely contained within the stock fuel tank and the plumbing to the engine isn't changed. There is also some well engineered plumbing that goes on inside the tank to ensure long term reliability of the stock pump.

--A very happy customer.

Ahh thanks.

Wouldn't it be easier to just Tee a line in the tank so the pick up sucks from both sides at the same time? When turning right the one line goes dry but the others still submerged in fuel sucking it up? Or external sump that's always being filled and where the engine pulls from. I found the install, looks like a lot of work.

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wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3596	I had a surprise issue! I didn't fill up my tank all day long at the track, and the car surprisingly didn't die phunk, Mike, sig11 and 6 others like this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

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G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 22	Will this fit g37 coupe? On first post you said this unit is not for FI and FI people have to wait.. any update about that? (sorry i just cant read the whole 34 pages lol) __________________ G37 BUILD UNDER CONSTRUCTION

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FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701617	Def interested in eventually picking this up as it is a must have if you track the car. Hell, Juno was getting fuel starve on the dragon this year with around 3/4 of a tank Phunk, you mentioned earlier trying ot get the price point down a bit if possible. It's not obscenely high right now BUT if you can get close to around an $800 mark, I don't think we would be able to resist picking this up sooner rather than later. phunk likes this.

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scruffydog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,113 Drives: with his eyes close Rep Power: 719	Count me in too phunk likes this. __________________ Magnetic Black 2010 370z Scruffydog's Journal

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synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3391	To much to read. Why does this work? Is it like a surge tank? Is our fuel pumps just dangling in mid air inside the fuel tank? __________________ 13 370z-

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