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some of us with phunk's product have a ton of track experience and dedicated track only cars. No, maybe we don't compete, but we actually do drive our cars one
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some of us with phunk's product have a ton of track experience and dedicated track only cars. No, maybe we don't compete, but we actually do drive our cars one or two weekends a month, and can run the tank completely dry if we want to.
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There is some other consideration for the product that I have sold to you guys. The product itself is one thing, and the supplied installation kit and installation manual is another.
Set aside the installation kit and manual, which is based on integration with the stock fuel pump assembly... and you have a 1.9L or so displacement in-tank, self filling (via solid state jet pump and gravity check valve, not a bunch of extra electronic pumps) surge canister. It has 4x quick connect fittings for input and output. It holds up to 2 fuel pumps. The sky and imagination is the limit. If you don't need the sacred FIA approved bladder that Shamus hard-parked Z needs, there is nothing going on inside his fuel cell, or anyone else's, that you cannot setup inside your tank. You want a bunch of Bosch scavenge pumps? Put them in and rock and roll! Return fuel conversion with adjustable regulator? I have it in stock.. And I was the first to do that for the 370z when Greddy asked me to I simply gave a PnP installation method. So far, it appears to be holding up for you guys. But should anyone ever need to make changes, I designed the product to be endlessly versatile and there are no limits to what you can do with it so long as it fits inside a 19 gallon tank.
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I don't understand all the hate for a product that solves the problem with fuel starvation. You can't just buy a fuel cell, throw a bunch of pumps in it, put it in the back of your car and call it certified because the fuel cell is certified. You need a full bulkhead, separating the driver from the cell, fuel lines have to be run correctly, etc... It can get expensive quickly and a lot of trackers don't need all of that extra stuff for what they're doing. CJM has been around the VQ community since the VQ35DE making great products, which I used. There are other options out there, surge tanks w/ large single or dual pumps can do the job for hi HP applications. Bottom line is your attitude smells like sh*t, your not that cool!
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This thread is obviously about phunk's Fuel Starvation Control Product, so stay on topic. I've spent my time cleaning it, so I would appreciate not having to come back to clean more unrelated BS out of it.
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Thanks guys.
To continue on my last post.. It actually had me thinking. Like I was saying, the installation kit and manual was centered around integration with the stock pump assembly so that you are 100% stock outside the tank. No need for return (unless wanted) no custom plumbing or AN lines needed, no external filter, compatible with stock fuel level gauge, etc But if one of you decides to get crazier and wants to go return fuel and use our road race pump as a standalone pump and ditch the stock assembly, be sure and let me know cause I can whip up some nice small parts for that. |
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^ Your really something else. Just had to get the last word after this thread was cleaned up. No confusion. Start your own thread! And when it came to my words you DID clearly indicate I said something didn't. So welcome to my ignore list.
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A little critisim is acceptable in my thread, i can deal with that.
im just happy to know that shamu doesnt still think that this is the answer: Fuel Starvation Control Product he may have overshot a little on the extreme end with little to no benefit (pending actual use of the vehicle when its done)... but at least he isnt running around the race track with a Folger's can in his tank anymore. he's come a long way, so ill give him that.
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Did a trackday yesterday for the first time using "phunk's" kit. It worked great. When I was done for the day. I had one light showing on the fuel gauge. Never had any problems with fuel starvation the whole day.
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If there is enough interest, I am looking into building another batch of these now. Not sure if I should start a new thread for it perhaps? But I do need to gauge interest to give me an idea of how many to make, if any at all!
I am taking steps to investigate ways to try and reduce the cost a little bit. I am not sure if I will get far with that, or anywhere at all. Its pending some quotes I have going. But I would probably say its best idea to gauge it assuming the cost remained the same, and go from there. I know that if I can bring it down I will have a wider market. I intended to do some redesigning on it to make it easier to manufacture, but as time passes by, it just doesnt seem like something that is wise to invest my time into doing, for what I feel is a rather limited market. From when I decide to pull the trigger on it and order material, we are probably looking at 8 weeks or so for production. Possibly sooner, but its hard to say having only made one batch so far. If this product is something you would be interested in jumping on the next batch, please let me know. To date, I have not been contacted by any customers from the first batch to report any surprise issues. 370z Road Race Fuel Pump
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