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Originally Posted by speedworks ^^ Time for the 240sx to come back MR24DDT!!!! The 1.6L already puts out ~190hp so I would expect at least 260hp from a 2.4L. However,

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MR24DDT!!!! The 1.6L already puts out ~190hp so I would expect at least 260hp from a 2.4L.

However, the Silvia can't come back unless they axe the Z or bump its performace. I'm hoping with them bumping the GTR to 530 and maybe 580 next year, they are planning to grow the Z.
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Everyone said the Genesis 2.0t was going to sell like hot cakes: RWD, light weight (comparativly) RWD, turbo. Yet it really hasn't taken off like everyone though. I believe the FR-S will be the same. I mean at 20-25k for a base version you are looking at close to 30k for a optioned up model. For that type of money you can buy much better and faster cars. I know this car is supposed to be about handling but thats about the only thing it has going for it. The miata sells a lot because it's cheap and sporty looking, doesn't mean that it's acutally fast. When it comes to most car enthusaists, people want a car that is fast and corners well. For the price range they are talking I would look more at the Genesis V6, Mustang V6, WRX, etc. Time will tell what this car actually becomes and how well it does.
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FR-S could very well end up as a cultish car like the Miata. At 2,600 lbs for the base that's pretty awesome.
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I won't bite for the Scion, but if the Subaru version tickles my fancy I will be all over it in a heartbeat.
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I wonder if the FR-S will even have a backseat for the US market. Is the backseat confirmed for the US? The U.S. spec Honda CR-Z had to eliminate the back seat due to safety concerns here.
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If the Subaru verison only has 210-220 hp I will be thoroughly disappointed. But I'll wait patiently to see what the official specs are. It has the potential to be a really cool car.
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Ugh. $28,000 base price and only 1 mpg better than our Z. I hope car and driver are wrong about those numbers.
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so what would please the masses here assuming the weight stays at or around 2600....250...300FI?
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so what would please the masses here assuming the weight stays at or around 2600....250...300FI?
200 works for me, but I wish it had more torque (~200).
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It depends. With a 2600 curb weight at a 20-22k base price I would say 220-230hp is adequate to be competitive. With a price of 25-28k which is more likely I think 250hp is the bare minimim. The car should also have FI for the simple fact that people like to mod cars and with a N/A 4 banger chances are this car won't really respond to mods all that well.
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Ugh. $28,000 base price and only 1 mpg better than our Z. I hope car and driver are wrong about those numbers.
the base needs to be like $22K to make any sense...especially a scion (or suby for that matter).
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