Next Generation of NISMO Performance Announcement Coming 2/26

JungleZ

I think they already know that it's dying, the guy already confirmed to jay Leno they have to make it lighter and more gas efficient. So I guess ya I don't see them increasing the price but nismo is expensive as hell don't they know that. Seems like they're all over the place.

UNKNOWN_370

In the most basic of conceptions it needs to follow some BRZ attributes. The weight and length mainly. But the power and features have to be an advancement of this Z. A 300hp car would be fine but it better be FI... I'm really hoping for 350hp minimum on that size and weight chassis. But a HP and feature direct competitor to the BRZ would be a fvckin joke when the Z34 is this powerful.

ImportConvert

Crazy how other cars in its price range sell like crazy, huh? I mean, mustang sales and all. The new 5.0 with Track Pack is all the rage. If Nissan makes a car that compete, maybe it will sell too. Of course the fat whore doesn't make as much money as the hot one. Nissan needs to get it in shape and maybe she can bring home some money.

UNKNOWN_370

the z wasn't meant to be sold in those numbers either. If we sold in the range of 20,000 to 30,000 units a year. the Z would be considered a HUGE success.

Cmike2780

I agree with you somewhat, but the sales figures of the Mustang has been on the decline overall....even after the refresh. People just aren't buying as many sports cars/muscle cars as they use to in the early 2000's. Stangs are still outselling the Z by a huge margin, but overall, it's been on a decline. Ford knows this. It's why rumors of a the next Mustang becoming more of a sports car instead of muscle car are likely. I love muscle cars & anything fast, but let's face it, the majority of the planet are satisfied driving a Camry or Civic.

Heck, 'Murica's love for muscle cars isn't even a comparison to what they really love. The bread and butter for the big three and the very reason they are still around after making lackluster cars for so many years......Big *** Trucks! Ford sold 645,316 F-Series trucks last year vs 82,995 for the 'stang.

I guess my point is, it's a niche market begin with and you can find faults in every car if you look hard enough. You'd have to be a complete fool to believe every word in the brochure. If every word were true, there would be no aftermarket & we wouldn't need to modify anything. It's not an excuse or in defense of Nissan, Ford or any other company, just realities of producing a car that has to apeal to millions, each having very specific wants and needs. The next Z should be better and learn from current owners, but that doesn't mean Nissan is going to listen to a few enthusiast. Here's to hoping that they do.

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UNKNOWN_370

Yeah but Camaro sales see increases... I think Fords overall styling works against them as well as having the Live axle. I think people are just demanding more for their money. Camaro offers more overall interior comfort. (Those seats are amazing) More confident steering and a sport like seat position with caddy like comfort. While mustang has a comfy seat option. comfort is standard on a camaro. Camaro also has a lot of standard creature comforts.
The mustang performance is more pure but the vast market is looking for a combo sport/ comfort car. The camaro fits that mold much better and just feels good when driving daily by comparison.
I think the next gen will be more z like in terms of a lot of power matched on amazing handling. That will help the stang, but with the ATS chassis being the main candidate for the next gen camaro. It will be a tight race. Either way. I think mustang sales will increase next gen. This gen body style is just worn to shyt.

Cmike2780

The Camaro sales are beating the Mustang, but totals show an overall decrease from 2011 to 2013 for the Camaro also. It's some 3,800 units less. That's about a third of 370z sales in 2012. I actually like the Mustang's styling over the Camaro. Both cars need a huge re-design though. The Camaro's styling, although hadn't entered production until 2010, dates back to 2006 in a concept form. That's a lot of years of seeing the same design. I'm curious to see what Chevy has planned for the next gen Camaro after seeing the new Stingray.

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ImportConvert

I hope Nissan does, too, but they will have to re-do EVERYTHING. Paint. Glass. Everything. The whole car has been rather fragile. The rotors just really stand out and bug me. My G20 was the same way, build by the same kinds of minds. It's just how they do things over there in this company, and I've decided it's not to my advantage.

gomer_110

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Nissan wants to compete against the BRZ then bring back the f-ing silvia for that and leave the Z to compete against Mustangs, Camaro, etc.

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UNKNOWN_370

Hmmmm what would Rick James say right Now?

"Nice Car n****! Where's the F@%kn exhaust?????? Arrrrggggghhhh!!!"



Then stomp his muddy boots in the interior

lol

Cmike2780

Thats pretty f'n impressive. Drool-

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Eagle

Goddamn how i wish they'd produce the R390 for public sale.

LMBmikeZ

but those other cars are selling due to there name, a lot of people go when you say you drive a nissan (american made domestic heads) but these can also be the same idiots who say the corolla is import and not made domestically mean while it's made in the town they live in dummies



The Nismo HQ looks sweet! Makes me want a GTR

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ImportConvert

I promise you, it's not the "Oh, it's a Nissan" that is keeping the 370Z from selling. Do you know where I live? I live in Shreveport, LA. Can you think of a more import hating place than next to one of the largest military installations in the US in a Southern town where the Daughters of the Confederacy and the NAACP went at it daily over a patch of ground flying a Confederate Flag down town in front of the court-house up until a year or so ago? I cannot. (PS. I hate this town).

Anyway, I get more compliments in my 370Z than I have gotten combined in my Mustang GT, Z06, or two Trans Ams before that. All prime redneck and 'Murican loved vehicles.

No, sir, it is NOT the "It's an import"...

that is keeping the 370Z from selling. It's not brand, it's not image. It's lack of substance in the numbers department. 'Murica buys a car because of how much she has under the hood. The 370Z doesn't have crap under the hood by 'Murica's standards, so the fact that it weighs less than the boat of a Challenger/Charger doesn't matter, really. The fact that there are no back-seats for the single baby-momma's in this town are a huge killer. Everyone here has some form of child or ten. They need a car with back seats. Please, Nissan, don't...

...but that's part of why it doesn't compete with the Camaro, Mustang, and Mopars twins.

'Murica wants to go fast in one direction toting it's EBT-enabling cargo squalling all the way. At least, the 'Murica I live in.

Then you take a single guy who hates kids and doesn't care who made it, as long as it's quality gear, and we try the 370Z out. We discover that the brakes don't work so great, the shifter is worse than the Tremec's in the American cars, the handling in the GT Track Pack is more neutral, and we say...damn. 'Murica! and we never look back. Nissan is a "one and done" for us, because we looked past the other things that weeded others out, but once we actually got the product, we found out it was all sexy curves, cute little catch phrases like "dynamic weight transfer", and no balls or brawn when it comes time to actually DRIVE the thing and we wind up with warped rotors and hating the front-heavy handling and all those little nitpicky things after a day of driving to and from work on a road with a few kinks in it.

That is why it doesn't sell.

Those who would buy it, can't fit their life into it, and those who do buy it, figure out that it's not half the car it seemed like in the product brochure.