Next Generation of NISMO Performance Announcement Coming 2/26

ImportConvert

I agree with everything you said. It's also completely meaningless to me, who doesn't race at the track or do HPDE's, or push anything to 100% of its limit. I'm not Randy Pobst, and I don't need a 360* panoramic tour of the block.

6spd

Lame announcement.

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dastaco

This whole announcement is just confusing to me, what exactly is the direction Nissan is taking here? They are racing experimental cars in Le Mans and a V8 RWD Altima in Australia that you cannot buy. Why in the world aren't they making a push to race something in North America? Why aren't they attempting to make the Z a known car in the racing world? Unless they plan on selling their experimental cars and V8 RWD altimas this entire thing is just insane to me.

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Cmike2780

They just opened the doors. Give it time. They did a pretty bad-*** car back in the day called the 400R and I think they did a pretty okay job with the Nismo 370. Sure we would all like to see more power & massive turbo's, but it's not always the right choice for a company financially. Nissan isn't about to sink millions into something that doesn't sell. They need to sell the affordable stuff in order to finance and develop the limited run stuff. I highly doubt producing & selling 100 "Nismo GT-R's" could finance the whole operation alone. This is one of the reasons a ton of great tuning companies died out. Great cars/parts, but if the consumers don't buy them, they're done for.

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JungleZ

Not interested in gtr, are you guys even worried the next g z will be a disaster? They barely sell them right now..

ImportConvert

I don't care what it is, I refuse to buy another Nissan, but I am sure that on paper it will perform better than the current model, Nissan usually does accomplish that.

UNKNOWN_370

I'm really worried brother... I want more than anything for the Z to be a huge competitor in the next gen market. We never addressed the things we should've and what we did address it took too long.

That said. I don't see this current Z as a complete disaster and for whatever reason the American media felt they needed to? I think the Z's shortcomings are over-exaggerated. BUT, we need a formula that has to be bulletproof.

1. Much lighter weight (2800-3000lb range through alum &CF usage expansion)
2. An automatic transmission that can hold up to 500rwhp
3. A smoother short shifting manual.
4. Maintain or improve the 1g/1.01g of grip we currently have
5. Universal brake cooling for all models
6. A body design that can support over 180mph top speeds w/o body kit.
7. A simplified yet very high quality interior.
8. Squeeze an extra foot of trunk space
9. Look at michelin PSS as standard sport tires.
10. Maintain sport pkg width on tires and continue Rays wheel support.
11. Akebono needs to improve on weight reduction and ventilation on the next sport brake.
12. Use high torque F.I. Motor
13. Keep prices as reasonable as possible.

Stay away from

1. electric steering.
2. electric handbrakes
3. Too much digital shyt
4.Adding a clock in the triple gauge cluster

SS_Firehawk

What you are describing is a corvette. And all that will turn into the price of a Corvette. Electric power steering is already on the vehicle. And They have no reason to make another transmission that can hold 500whp that what is on the GTR. Manufacturers build to a requirement and there is no incentive to use the expensive parts needed to upgrade their 7sp to hold that kind of power. In reality, it's torque that breaks things, not horsepower.

The FM platform is made of steel, it's the main reason Z's weigh 32-3300lbs. Switch that to aluminum and weight will go down, but expect prices to jump. Lightweight cars don't need a lot of torque. If weight is dropping to your 2800-3000 lbs, 300lbft would feel like a lot. I do agree that the Z would be better on different tires. PSS's, Re11's AD08's, a serious track tire if it's a SP or Nismo. I don't think a base model would need all the extra track cooling things you want, but I can def see it on sport and Nismo models.

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UNKNOWN_370

1. Electric steering is on the Vette. I said we need to stay away from that. Which would equal cost reduction
2. I said increase usage of CF and Alum. Not build the car of Alum and CF. The vette chassis is all aluminum.
3. I when i said more torque, notice I didn't specify Hp and TQ numbers because I don't even know what They friggin plan on putting in the Z.
But, if you are going to maintain or increase the grip on the current car???? Torque will help alot. I like the fact that the Z on launch feels like a muscle car. And I don't want it to feel like a BRZ. So torque for me means near equal number to its HP rating. ie. 320hp/320lbs tq. On 3k lbs? That don't mean shyt.
The vette is 3100 lbs w/a shytload of torque. As it stands right now. Our cars are heavier. A $3,000 price increase for a competitive car? I'm not crying.
4. simplifying the interior as far as computer BS should save a lot of money over the current car. No need for $2200 nav options when we can have a simplified $800 unit. things enthusiasts DONT need. We dont need electric doo dads like elec steering and brakes either. All costly fluff.

Keep the money in the chassis and sport pkges.

SS_Firehawk

We have a variable electric steering unit in our cars. Electric power steering has also gotten very inexpensive, improves gas mileage, and horsepower. I don't see manufacturers retaining hydraulic. If the base price for a Z is 33k and the base price for a Vette is closer to 50k, that's significant. If we use the Nismo instead, we are still off by around 8k. If you propose to reduce weight by 200-400lbs without switching to an aluminum chassis, it's impossible with the safety regulations. The use of carbon fiber is incredibly cost prohibitive and will send the price through the roof. Affordable carbon fiber is a relative term, and the cost for OEM's to use it is still very high. Regarding the NAV unit, like you said, it is an option. We don't need it, we have phones. The rest of the car world is turning their nav systems all fancy, if Nissan does not improve their tech side, it will only be another pitfall. The Vette has a lot of avenues to recoup development funds. The have their own racing team, and parts sharing is very high. There is no import tax to contend with and they build 10's of thousands a year. The Z doesn't make Nissan enough money on the Z to make a dedicated chassis. Now they can price a Nismo Z 10-20,000 higher than a normal one, make that chassis aluminum, throw a bunch of go fast parts and have that go battle with the serious fish in the business. Then make a base model with more basic amenities and reduced power to hit the low end of the market ($30k) A lot of this is just my opinion on the matter. I wish the same things are you do, but it will be far fetched to see some of it come to fruition.

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ImportConvert

My .02, FWIW.

UNKNOWN_370

I think Fi benefits this car more because v6 NA tuning sucks and is expensive. NA v8 or FI 6 are superior to other types of inexpensive engines. Plus they are much more mod friendly as well as less expensive to mod.

ImportConvert

FI is heavy, and the car is already a pig up front. They would need to figure out how to trim it down a lot not to un-balance it even more than it already is.

JungleZ

Hey uknown your last paragraph is exactly how I feel, I don't want a freaking brz fighter, I want a proper entry level sports car. If they need to increase the price again at least improve instead of adding removing LEDs and fangs

MC

if they increase the price much the car is going to die. Its selling 450 a month

I want the Z35 to be what the BRZ is and isnt at the same time. you give me that same weight and proportioned car with 300hp for not exceeding 5K more than the BRZ and its a hit

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