The car most enthusiasts still sleep on

zguynate · 12-30-2012, 10:18 AM

Hopefully if Nissan does "downsize", it will be lighter with a 300hp turbo engine! Thats just dreaming though lol.

Funny story, I actually drove my fiances Genesis to help out a buddy last night whos 370 suffered from the steering lock failure. Luckily we were able to tap on it and get it started to pull the fuse. Anyway, back on topic!:

From my little drive last night, it refreshed me on how the car drives. The steering is a little sloppy. Not quite as direct or precise as the Z. The transmission feels almost lifeless when you shift the gears. Like the gear shifter is stuck in a tub of butter. I like that you can feel the vibrations in the shift knob and the clunkiness in the Z. The gas pedal also has a slight delay in it, same as the Z (I hate that). It handles fine enough for me but its lowered on coilovers. Its still not bad however. I could drive it as a daily. The interior is a little cheap but it doesnt bother me.

luigi90210 · 12-30-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath

Hopefully if Nissan does "downsize", it will be lighter with a 300hp turbo engine! Thats just dreaming though lol.

i hope they dont downsize, i do hope however they make a 370zx TT

shadoquad · 12-30-2012, 02:18 PM

I respect the GenCoupe, but I'd still take a new G37s over it any day of the week and twice on Thursday.

Personal opinion, of course, but the G is one of my favorite cars out there. Sporty, responsive, refined, luxurious, comfortable, beautiful.

zguynate · 12-30-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I respect the GenCoupe, but I'd still take a new G37s over it any day of the week and twice on Thursday.

Personal opinion, of course, but the G is one of my favorite cars out there. Sporty, responsive, refined, luxurious, comfortable, beautiful.

Most definitely. I would have talked her into buying one of those if she could afford it lol.

m4a1mustang · 12-31-2012, 09:45 AM

That's because they are such a PITA to launch.

They are fully capable of 12.6-12.7 stock. I managed a 12.8 but was still giving up some on my 60'. That's on the driver, though.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-31-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That's because they are such a PITA to launch.

They are fully capable of 12.6-12.7 stock. I managed a 12.8 but was still giving up some on my 60'. That's on the driver, though.

i know bruh... You're preaching to the choir. But the point was the on paper stat part. I'm not taking anything away from the stang.

m4a1mustang · 12-31-2012, 09:52 AM

I do agree stats are generally meaningless. What you feel in your butt when you drive the thing is what matters most.

m4a1mustang · 12-31-2012, 09:52 AM

And some cars massage your azz.

Shamu · 12-31-2012, 10:56 AM

Let me see Hyundai is releasing a sports coupe that competes performance wise with big heavy German base model sedans? That's an accomplishment? Hmm wonder if new Hyundai will have aluminum frame, aluminum suspension, aluminum body panels by 2015? Lol!

Want to see an accomplishment? Watch for new c7 Vette.

kenchan · 01-01-2013, 09:02 PM

if GM can make the vette's interior nice, that alone would be an accomplishment.

back to hyundai

wheee! · 01-02-2013, 08:06 PM

It's kinda like meeting a new girl (if I remember correctly! lol)....

It either hits you and you have to have it... or it doesn't. The Z hit me as a 'must have' immediately. I love the perfections and the flaws = true love! lol

ZMan8 · 01-03-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

Not sure if the Z is over engineered compared to the stang. go drive them both and you'll see.

And your arguement is invalid. Fun doesnt = price. My versa is hella fun. but i wouldnt have paid more than 15k for it new. Which is why despite the fun the BRZ is still over priced at 25k. And its not because of stats on paper, its because of how it feels when i have to drive it everyday.

The reviewers etc who love that car all do so because they have open roads and tracks.. tell someone in a city to review it and see the difference. And yes that matters because despite what we all like to believe, we dont live on race tracks.

This is key. This car isnt as fun on a regular daily basis because its small on the inside(not practical) and has a very weak engine. While driving to work I consider fun when I feel like I have an untamed tiger underneath me that at the push if a pedal can let all h*** loose. Brz is a kitty when driving it everyday. Yes its a fun car when pushed to the limit...but how many drivers do that on a regular basis. My opinion is further driven by the fact that i live in chicago. We do not have mountains ot twisities here. It's straight lines on flat land.

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ZMan8 · 01-03-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

With the miata not existing. Isnt my point. The point is a miata isnt 43k for a reason. it wouldnt maatch up against sports cars in that area. Its stats wont allow it. The lotus may be very different from a vette, but has a performance set unique to its price range and still has performance stats in the range of a cayman. so it makes sense for a lotus to be in that price range with a vette. Lotus's are extremely lightweight and have no weight competitor in the price range.

Coming from a G37s, id rather have one too. But it doesnt mean the hyundai doesn't meet what i condier a competitive criteria for its price range. considering a Rspec 3.8 is 29k and a G37s is $47k you are paying greatly for your preferences. that being said, theres not much more performance for an 18k deficit in a G. At least not $18k worth

With the g37 you have pay a premium for theluxury aspects of the car/brand.

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Lemers · 01-03-2013, 11:11 AM

First I'm gonna start by saying I didn't read all the pages so I sorry if my thoughts were already discussed.

The Gencoups target was the g coup. It did very well to hit that target. The biggest mistake they made was not designing it to fit the sedan's V8. That would have made an interesting GT or limited available car.

FairladyZ · 01-03-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

First I'm gonna start by saying I didn't read all the pages so I sorry if my thoughts were already discussed.

The Gencoups target was the g coup. It did very well to hit that target. The biggest mistake they made was not designing it to fit the sedan's V8. That would have made an interesting GT or limited available car.

I don't think Infiniti or anyone cares who the gen coupes target is.

No one cross shops a g37 and that Hyundai.

People who look at g37 is aiming at luxury and probably is looking at the 3 series coupe, a5 coupe, c class coupe.

12-30-2012, 10:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 75	Hopefully if Nissan does "downsize", it will be lighter with a 300hp turbo engine! Thats just dreaming though lol. Funny story, I actually drove my fiances Genesis to help out a buddy last night whos 370 suffered from the steering lock failure. Luckily we were able to tap on it and get it started to pull the fuse. Anyway, back on topic!: From my little drive last night, it refreshed me on how the car drives. The steering is a little sloppy. Not quite as direct or precise as the Z. The transmission feels almost lifeless when you shift the gears. Like the gear shifter is stuck in a tub of butter. I like that you can feel the vibrations in the shift knob and the clunkiness in the Z. The gas pedal also has a slight delay in it, same as the Z (I hate that). It handles fine enough for me but its lowered on coilovers. Its still not bad however. I could drive it as a daily. The interior is a little cheap but it doesnt bother me. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

12-31-2012, 09:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	That's because they are such a PITA to launch. They are fully capable of 12.6-12.7 stock. I managed a 12.8 but was still giving up some on my 60'. That's on the driver, though. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-31-2012, 09:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I do agree stats are generally meaningless. What you feel in your butt when you drive the thing is what matters most. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-31-2012, 09:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	And some cars massage your azz. b1adesofcha0s and ZMan8 like this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-31-2012, 10:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 21	Let me see Hyundai is releasing a sports coupe that competes performance wise with big heavy German base model sedans? That's an accomplishment? Hmm wonder if new Hyundai will have aluminum frame, aluminum suspension, aluminum body panels by 2015? Lol! Want to see an accomplishment? Watch for new c7 Vette. __________________ Grant

12-30-2012, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3888	I respect the GenCoupe, but I'd still take a new G37s over it any day of the week and twice on Thursday. Personal opinion, of course, but the G is one of my favorite cars out there. Sporty, responsive, refined, luxurious, comfortable, beautiful.

01-01-2013, 09:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	if GM can make the vette's interior nice, that alone would be an accomplishment. back to hyundai UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

01-02-2013, 08:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 59 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40183	It's kinda like meeting a new girl (if I remember correctly! lol).... It either hits you and you have to have it... or it doesn't. The Z hit me as a 'must have' immediately. I love the perfections and the flaws = true love! lol shadoquad likes this. __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

01-03-2013, 11:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 54	First I'm gonna start by saying I didn't read all the pages so I sorry if my thoughts were already discussed. The Gencoups target was the g coup. It did very well to hit that target. The biggest mistake they made was not designing it to fit the sedan's V8. That would have made an interesting GT or limited available car. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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